.51 Ford engine swap - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Hotrodding Basics
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 12:36 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
.51 Ford engine swap

Hello, I am Bill and have a 1951 Ford Convertible. I have had the flat head V8 removed and am getting a 302/5.0 with automatic installed, Is there and adaptor kits for this application . What all will I have to do for this swap. I probably have already messed up by pulling the flat head. Is it easier and cheaper to go with a Chevy small block that the Ford small block. I am wanting to keep the car all Ford if possible. Thanks. Happy roding.

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 12:57 PM
Faith - Respect - Trust
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ontario
Age: 58
Posts: 3,508
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 192
Thanked 621 Times in 561 Posts
Welcome to the site...I wouldn't have any idea where you could get a kit to do flat head/302 swap but there are lots of guys here that I know can help and are willing to do so. I don't think you've screwed anything up, if you haven't tagged and bagged all the pieces yet, now would be a good time to do it, before you forget where things go. Even if your not planning on using the parts again, it's always a good reference point for future changes.

It might be a good idea to start another thread in the engine forum...more guys with expertise will answer your questions there.

Now, if you ever need any information or help in paint and body, I'll be happy to lend a hand where I can

All the best and again, Welcome.

Ray
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 02:14 PM
techinspector1's Avatar
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Last wiki edit: DynoSim combinations Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hemet, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 12,587
Wiki Edits: 326

Thanks: 699
Thanked 884 Times in 751 Posts
I always answer swap questions by offering the OP one or two books on swapping. You need to read up on the details because you don't know what you don't know.
Practical Engine Swapping: John Thawley: 9780936834115: Amazon.com: Books Practical Engine Swapping: John Thawley: 9780936834115: Amazon.com: Books

Nothing wrong with buying used editions. I do it all the time.
Amazon Amazon
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2013, 07:12 AM
delawarebill's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: delaware
Posts: 1,208
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts
parts ???

have u looked into LMC, MAC'S, SPEEDWAY ???
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2013, 07:42 AM
Irelands child's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: Ford engine specifications Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 4,867
Wiki Edits: 8

Thanks: 13
Thanked 185 Times in 166 Posts
Nothing is screwed up. The engine is out now so do a good clean up of whatever is dangling from the firewall, clean and paint the frame in front of the firewall, maybe overhaul that front suspension and possibly run some new wiring - some of that original wiring wasn't much from the factory. Then there is the change from 6V positive ground to 12V negative ground you will need to make regardless of what manufacturer's engine you use. Now, you need motor mounts bought or fabbed then welded in, a transmission mount, again, purchased or fabbed installed after you decide on what you are going to use - that original transmission, I can assure you will NOT survive even the lowest Hp 302 unless you drive like my granny, and then it's problematical. You will need a Fox body rear sump oil pan and oil pump pickup to clear the front cross member plus may need to 'drop' the drag link regardless. The rest is standard, fab work on exhaust, linkages plus gauge mods for the negative ground. Yeah, you can put a Chebbie in, but so does everyone else and it's not a bit easier with exactly the same work needed to do the job.

Do it, ask questions here and elsewhere, but before you start, and as evidently a newbie, draw up a basic plan as to what is needed and a general sequence to work to. Replacing a flathead IMO, is almost always a good idea these days unless you are really wealthy as it takes a bunch of bucks to even reach what a run of the mill 200-250Hp 302 does in stock form. If money is no object, then a fully dressed flathead - nothing sounds as good or looks and nice in a '49-'53 Ford.

Dave W
__________________
Irelands child
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2013, 08:50 AM
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: General Motors transmissions Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: near Yellowstone park
Posts: 4,212
Wiki Edits: 27

Thanks: 11
Thanked 233 Times in 219 Posts
more info

from my first google search
1949 1951 Ford Steering Motor Mounts Motor Mount Photo 9
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2013, 09:06 AM
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: General Motors transmissions Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: near Yellowstone park
Posts: 4,212
Wiki Edits: 27

Thanks: 11
Thanked 233 Times in 219 Posts
parts is parts

swap kits
butchscoolstuff.com
http://www.butchscoolstuff.com/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2013, 02:06 PM
techinspector1's Avatar
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Last wiki edit: DynoSim combinations Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hemet, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 12,587
Wiki Edits: 326

Thanks: 699
Thanked 884 Times in 751 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 51 ford convertible View Post
Hello, I am Bill and have a 1951 Ford Convertible. I have had the flat head V8 removed and am getting a 302/5.0 with automatic installed, Is there and adaptor kits for this application . What all will I have to do for this swap. I probably have already messed up by pulling the flat head. Is it easier and cheaper to go with a Chevy small block that the Ford small block. I am wanting to keep the car all Ford if possible. Thanks. Happy roding.
The one thing I would caution you on is to document the placement and thickness of any shims you remove to take off fenders, etc. If you don't get the shims back in just the way they came out, the seams of the parts will not line up and the car will look like a hack job.

I stopped going to amateur auto shows just for this reason. Got tired of looking at improper gaps and relationships between panels.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Hotrodding Basics posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need advise on Ford 300 engine swap to a Ford 400 aztek_warrior Hotrodding Basics 6 03-22-2011 02:59 PM
54 Ford engine swap Straycat631 Engine 1 07-31-2010 09:32 PM
53 ford engine swap kegger Engine 1 11-20-2007 01:18 AM
95 ford F-150 engine swap, Same Transmission fit new engine? F-150 Transmission - Rearend 5 10-07-2007 12:11 PM
55 ford engine swap help can55ford Engine 1 11-23-2002 09:33 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.