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Old 05-09-2014, 09:25 PM
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That would make for a perfect fit .

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Perfect John on the wheel opening idea.

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How do like my solution for a template for my wheel well opening?
I sure can't think of a better one
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:08 PM
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The Trunk drop down is now tacked front and rear and the left hand side of the tail pan is installed welded and ground.

I also cleaned the rear of the quarter and determined where it needs to be cut. I wish I could cut it between the stainless trim strips but,I think I will bite the bullet and cut it about 3/4 inch above the upper one.

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Well done Mr.John... It won't be long before your riding...
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IMO I would have to run those Skirts at least some of the time .
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IMO I would have to run those Skirts at least some of the time .
Oh yea, Gotta have skirts. That is why the wheel well opening has to be right.

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Hopefully there are some folks here who are interested in the process of making an accurate template for a patch panel.

The first thing I did was to mark a referance line front to rear on the quarter panel about 3/4 of an inch above where I want the patch to come. I want to make the patch a little bigger than the final piece which will help during the wheeling process. The outer border helps the English Wheel force the metal up instead of outward while it is being wheeled.



I then took a dirty putty knife and rubbed it on the edge of the skirt to transfer a line for the wheel well.



Next, I measured the cut out for the bumper brace from the other side of the car and made a template of it. That template was then transferred to the larger quarter panel template.





Lastly, I cut out the perameter of the pattern and made careful notes on the template about where to add material for flanges.

For example at the skirt I wrote minus 1/8 inch plus flange which will allow for the gap between the quarter and the skirt.

I hope this is of use to some out there.

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Heck, slap some duraglass on that cardboard and PAINT it.....
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Had a great 5 days in Nashville at the Good-Guy's show but home now and time to get to work.

I made a couple of templates for the shape of the quarter. One front to rear and one top to pottom. Got it transferred to the metal blank and hope to wheel it tomorrow. If I do, I will try to make a few pictures of the progress to post. The forming process is the interesting part that I think most ot the folks following along are probably interested in. I hope so anyway.

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Here is the metal blank ready to wheel.



In this picture you can see I marked the template line as it relates to the position I made it on the car itself.

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I very much like the pictures help me understand eaiser what you are doing, a picture is worth ,you know,
try to learn from watching you A PRO in any bodys book , as I have metal work to do on my 55/210 I will attempt to make Some not buy as in the past ,Thanks John for sharing,
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I very much like the pictures help me understand eaiser what you are doing, a picture is worth ,you know,
try to learn from watching you A PRO in any bodys book , as I have metal work to do on my 55/210 I will attempt to make Some not buy as in the past ,Thanks John for sharing,
Thank you for the kind words David.

One day, a week or so ago, I noticed that there 3 forum members and 25 guests viewing the thread. I believe there are a lot of guys out there that are interested in the process and are following along though they are not really interested in joining the forum or commenting.

My goal is still to make this as educational as possible for the back yard builder on a budget but sometimes I am afraid I am "talking down" to the experienced builders and body men and don't want to be guilty of that.

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Old 05-20-2014, 11:12 PM
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It's damn interesting to me, I am no "experienced" fabricator but have dabbled and what you have done here has been a hit with me!

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Thank you for the kind words David.

One day, a week or so ago, I noticed that there 3 forum members and 25 guests viewing the thread. I believe there are a lot of guys out there that are interested in the process and are following along though they are not really interested in joining the forum or commenting.

My goal is still to make this as educational as possible for the back yard builder on a budget but sometimes I am afraid I am "talking down" to the experienced builders and body men and don't want to be guilty of that.

John
You can't "talk down" to anyone John.
Nobody knows everything and there's always something to learn. Hopefully if an experienced builder knows a better way, he might chime in with his tips.

I for one suck at low crowned panels, so please explain as best you can. This is probably the hardest shape to make and a lot of guys need to wheel out door skins and stuff.
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Your a doing a great job, John ...You certainly have a way to make everything seem possible and uncomplicated, that's even more important than the fantastic work your doing... This is one of my favorite threads and I tune in every morning hoping to see another post...I did have an awful thought this morning, there will come a day when this car is done and what will we do then???? You cant just leave all your fans hanging.....Were going to have to get you another project...I got 4 wheels with good tires on them ,you can build the rest...
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