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Old 06-06-2013, 06:41 AM
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John, I respect that you want to meet the challenge of fabricating as much as possible and as "frugally" as you can. The area where that toe board, cowl, pillar, rocker, etc. etc. come together is critical to the overall alignment of the surrounding panels and structural integrity. I had the same scenario when I got into my '67 GTO. There are 7 LAYERS of metal all joined in that area. I took the "easy" way out and bought cut offs from donor cars. Makes the rest of the job much easier to work from.

The background somewhat hides details but the pillar piece on the left is what I cut out and the right is a mint donor from Oklahoma.


This is what I cut out to get to good metal. You can see what is left of the frame under the floor. It was completely rusted off.


With one, intact piece, I was able to move on to the body mount and outer rocker replacements. I staggered the cut to avoid one straight weld line inside and out. I felt this would provide more strength and minimize warpage from welding. I did this to both sides.


OK, no more "unsolicited advice " from me, unless you ask...

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Old 06-06-2013, 07:13 AM
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I appreciate all advice and opinions. putting a new post on certainly would work well but that is not easy either. You have to find a REALLY GOOD one, cut it off, cut yours off and then you still have to open yours up to weld it in so that it has strength.

If I had a good one in my hand I probably would use it but I am not going to go looking for a 60 year old lower A pillar that is rock solid. Hey, this is the part I like, unlike most people.

My friends like to do the Fab work or build engines. I like the metal work. I know I am strange.

As far as unsolicited advice goes, I did solicit it at the beginning of this thread. I promise not to be offended by those who dissagree with what I am doing and I hope no one is upset if I truck along following my vision of what I want to do. Having fun is what this hobby is all about.

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I trimmed the front rh A pillar until I got to solid metal. It is in pretty good shape from here up. As you can see from the pictures I have made my first piece. It still has to be scribed trimmed and welded. I will not trim the bottom to length until it is welded in. That way I can know it will fit after I make the piece it joins. Also, larger pieces will not get as hot and when you are welding so difficult angles it will not blow through quite as easily.

I also ordered a set of outer rockers today. They are not too expensive and it will help me to position the inner rockers in the right space. I started another post concerning the odd way GM built the rockers but did not get any replies.

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Oh yeah, you have some work to do! I have been thinking about how I am going to handle the rust in my trucks cab........I feel a lot better now. Take some photos a little further back from where you took that last photo. I see the door hinge up there so I have an idea of where you are but would like a little better grasp of it.

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Oh yeah, you have some work to do! I have been thinking about how I am going to handle the rust in my trucks cab........I feel a lot better now. Take some photos a little further back from where you took that last photo. I see the door hinge up there so I have an idea of where you are but would like a little better grasp of it.

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Hot damn, you are getting into that! I like how you have the car on jack stands, something often missed by people, good thinking.

Remember to protect my radio and dash knobs from welding and grinding sparks.

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Old 06-06-2013, 09:22 PM
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Remember to protect my radio and dash knobs from welding and grinding sparks.

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LOL ......Not to mention my windshield.

PM me your address and phone if you don't mind me having it.

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Did not accomplish a lot but my A pillar grew a couple of inches today. Still have more to weld at the front.

Amazon says mymPlasma Cutter will be here wednesday.

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You're gonna love a plasma...
I wear safety sunglasses with mine to reduce eye strain from the light. Many people don't wear anything and it doesn't seem to bother them, but I get an area of out of focus like a weld flash after a while without them.
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I wear safety sunglasses with mine to reduce eye strain from the light. Many people don't wear anything and it doesn't seem to bother them, but I get an area of out of focus like a weld flash after a while without them.
LOL. They do cut rust don't they?
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LOL. They do cut rust don't they?
Lots of spatter when you stray from rusty metal to pure rust. Be careful...
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John,

I don't have any helpful advice. I just want to tip my hat to you for even thinking about saving that car. As long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters.
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I don't have any helpful advice. I just want to tip my hat to you for even thinking about saving that car. As long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters.
I couldnt have said it any better...working with this stuff is a challenge few are up to..welcome to the club...
Are you planning on any changes or modifications like ,taillights ,body drops suspension etc...
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Looks like a lot of work ahead John, but I'm sure you can handle it. I look forward to the continued updates of the build. Kinda looks like a 68 Camaro we are working on, we are using the factory fire wall, EVERYTHING else will be replaced

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I couldnt have said it any better...working with this stuff is a challenge few are up to..welcome to the club...
Are you planning on any changes or modifications like ,taillights ,body drops suspension etc...
It will probably be a mild custom painted red with white cove. I hope to make it a big block 4 speed car. Nosed, decked, lowered with skirts. PS PB Air etc. My intent was to subframe it but I keep reading posts that talk about what a nightmare it is to subframe these cars. I don't really want to spend 2500 dollars for a new mustang II set up. Not sure at this point how to best handle the front suspension. S10 was my original choice but there may be better ways. In the old days a lot of people used Cavalier racks on the origional suspension. Ball bearing wheel bearings with a bit block sounds a little iffy to me though. I just don't know.

If you look closely at my pictures it will occur to you, I have lots of time to decide.

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Looks like a lot of work ahead John, but I'm sure you can handle it. I look forward to the continued updates of the build. Kinda looks like a 68 Camaro we are working on, we are using the factory fire wall, EVERYTHING else will be replaced

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Do you need the rear steer subframe?

Thanks for the interest and support guys.

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