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Old 09-11-2013, 09:05 PM
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Your braces end up looking as good as these...

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Gorsh, I hate it when I blush. Thanks Ray.
See John...I do follow every post...LOL.

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Old 09-11-2013, 09:35 PM
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Your braces end up looking as good as these...
EMS does have the best I have used. I did order the outer rockers from them and will get their quarter patches if I can't find an origional quarter.

John

This was the best aftermarket patch I ever ordered. It was EMS.

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Old 09-11-2013, 10:32 PM
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Yep, amazing work, I REALLY love seeing this car going together.

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Old 09-13-2013, 06:53 PM
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Today I began to make the body mounts that are at the back of the drivers seat.

The first thing I did was make a cardboard template of the bottom since it widens out toward the end.




After transferring the template to a piece of 18 gauge I added enough material to turn up the sides.



Then I tipped up the curved leg on the English Wheel and broke the straight side on the metal brake.


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This gave me a straight piece that had to be shaped the other direction.



First I stretched the "legs" to get the radius I needed.




Next I made a template to get the angles I needed. It was cool that the notch I cut out for one bend was perfect for the filler piece for the other bend.





Now it is time to start the upper half of the mounts that contain the flanges that fit up to the floor pans.

Onward and upward.
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John, had a great time with some great friends! glad you got home safe
Jeremy, great to see you all at Shades, thanks again for the hat! What a great weekend, can't wait to do it again next year.

John, just catching up on the thread - awesome stuff as always! Hope to get back down to see you all soon. Will be happy to fetch tools, sweep up or just watch a real craftsman at work

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Old 09-13-2013, 08:10 PM
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Now that you mentioned it. The Cleveland Cruise is is the 27th. You are welcome to come down and join us.
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John, my wife was walking by and I showed her this last piece you are working on. She walked forward and asked if I had a photo of a new fabbed on next to what it was copying. I went back earlier in the thread to show her one and she was very impressed and looked genuinely interested in what you were doing. She has very little interest in this stuff outside of checking out what my son and I are doing in the garage so I thought that was pretty cute how you got her attention with your spectacular fabrication work.

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Looks great John...always impressive and love the tutorial. Just on a side note...have you ever tried running pot metal through an English wheel when making a grill for 39 Chevy...LOL...sorry John...Big Rat is still pulling my chain a bit...all in fun though...LOL

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Yes Ray, I can run pot metal through the english wheel. It makes excellent sand blast media.

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This thing kind of kicked my rear today but it looks like I am getting to where I want to be. It has taken several hours to get the curves and offsets in this thing. The problem is not with all the sharp verticle curves but the way it sweeps outwardly at the same time.

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I'm always looking forward to each new post. Great work! Thanks for the detailed pictures. Very inspirational!
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John what your doing is just amazing! I realize that there are lots of members belonging to this Forum with the talent for metal work you display and think they are amazing also ( all you have to do is attend any car show and wonder "How did they do that?")! The pictures of the steps that it takes to make a part are so very educational that I know a lot of us are saying to ourselves "I think I can do that".
Any chance of adding the type of tool used to make a specific procedure below the picture? Maybe something like "edge curve- shrinker -stretcher, center bend- metal brake, dripping finger-Band Aid. I realize that in some respects this might be a little redundant but some of us (me) can be a little befuddled about some of the procedures/results it takes for the end product (come to think of it, getting up in the morning can make some of up a little befuddled, me). Yeah I realize there are lots of instructional aids out there but some of us (me) feel we are learning from a friend!

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I will be glad make sure the tool used is clear BoothBoy. I really thought I had done that. The only thing I have used to this point are the Shrinker/Stretcher jaws except for using the edge of the English Wheel upper anvil to tip up a curved angle. In the 2 cases I have done that I have shown a picture specifically showing that proceedure.

You are absolutely correct when you say we could all do this. I have said from the getgo that this is a question of having a few tools and lot of patience but it is not beyond the rhelm of the average car guy.

When it comes to making complete body panels as Pugsy123 is doing on his Chrysler the skill level obviously goes way up but to do the mounts or repair a rusted window channel is not terribly difficult. Pugs would be the first to tell you that with practice and an understanding of the way metal moves this can certainly be learned.

Bending a piece of metal is one thing but there is a real satisfaction in being able to make something that has form and shape out of a flat piece of metal.

Speaking of body panels I drove 200 miles to Asheville NC today and bought a pretty good hard top drivers door, a complete set of quarter panel trim, door trim and a RH vent window assembly. Also the speaker grill I bought off of Ebay came. It is exciting to be getting the trim pieces lined up.

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