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Old 10-22-2013, 05:55 PM
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Will you use the Versailles rear as is, or is it getting any changes to gears or? Reason I ask is the Versailles is not a true 9" Ford; it's a 9 3/8" Ford, so none of the 9" gears will fit it. It is the same housing as a 9", so a complete 9" third member will bolt right in. They're a great rear, and very beefy axles and tubes, plus big brakes!
Wow! This is the first I ever heard of this. It is a 2:50 gear and will probably need to be changed to about a 3:00 if I run the 4 speed as I intend. It would need to go to a 3:25 or 3:50 if I use a 5 speed.

I have a 3:00 that needs pinion bearings so I thought I would just deal with that down the road. I never considered it would be anything but a 9 inch with 28 spline axles.

Educate me about what I need to know please.

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During our remodel I was cranky, short tempered, and just off center. Of course I had just purchased another project car, and promised my wife (and myself!) that I wouldn't touch it until I totally completed the bath.
Once I finished the bath my wife was so pleased she told me to take a break and work on the car. After seeing the change in my demeanor she told me that when I start the kitchen I needed to take a couple days off each week to work on the cars. Seems it was obvious to her that all remodeling, and no car playing made me a grumpy guy to be around!
Do you hink the door at a 45 was a hint ,you wonted to be some where else .
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"Rusty" is living up to his name...

I'm surprised to see the spare tire well looking so good when the rest of the floor is gone. I thought that was usually the first thing to go.

Do you plan to recreate the well or eliminate that on the new floor ?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:42 PM
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"Rusty" is living up to his name...

I'm surprised to see the spare tire well looking so good when the rest of the floor is gone. I thought that was usually the first thing to go.

Do you plan to recreate the well or eliminate that on the new floor ?
At this time I intend to reproduce it. I made one for my 57 Olds. Was not too bad to make. I did it in three pieces. A band and 2 side "caps".

It truely is odd how this car has rusted. The good thing is it gets pretty solid once you get up about 5-6 inches so there is something to build back too. I origioanlly thought the car had rusted from moisture coming up out of the ground but I am not sure that is correct. The top of the gas tank is rusted out big time but the bottom was still in it. Several things like that have really puzzled me. On the otherhand the spare tire well is worse than that shot shows.

496Chevy3100 knows the folks who the previous owner bought it from. I am hoping he may get a little history on the car but it is probably a long shot.

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Wow! This is the first I ever heard of this. It is a 2:50 gear and will probably need to be changed to about a 3:00 if I run the 4 speed as I intend. It would need to go to a 3:25 or 3:50 if I use a 5 speed.

I have a 3:00 that needs pinion bearings so I thought I would just deal with that down the road. I never considered it would be anything but a 9 inch with 28 spline axles.

Educate me about what I need to know please.

John
If you have a third member in 9" now John, then once rebuilt it will bolt right in if it's set up for the same splines as the Versailles axle. But 9 3/8" gears for the Versailles rear axle are impossible to find in anything but the standard ratios, and those were tall like your 2.50, to maybe 2.73 gears.
We went through this earlier this year building my buddy's '35 Plymouth coupe with a Versailles axle. All the rearend shops in town told us to dump the big third member and drop a std. 9" third member into the housing. We found a nice 3.50 third member on CL and it bolted right up, and accepted our axles, but I don't recall what spline we had in the rearend?
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Do you hink the door at a 45 was a hint ,you wonted to be some where else .
I think it was more about me getting up each morning and going out to say good morning to the project car before starting on the bathroom.
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If you have a third member in 9" now John, then once rebuilt it will bolt right in if it's set up for the same splines as the Versailles axle. But 9 3/8" gears for the Versailles rear axle are impossible to find in anything but the standard ratios, and those were tall like your 2.50, to maybe 2.73 gears.
We went through this earlier this year building my buddy's '35 Plymouth coupe with a Versailles axle. All the rearend shops in town told us to dump the big third member and drop a std. 9" third member into the housing. We found a nice 3.50 third member on CL and it bolted right up, and accepted our axles, but I don't recall what spline we had in the rearend?
After you made your post I looked around the NET some. As for as I can tell from what I have read it will be 28 spline. As long as a 9 inch chunk will go in I am home free. I really appreciate the follow up. Thanks

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Old 10-23-2013, 08:22 AM
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After you made your post I looked around the NET some. As for as I can tell from what I have read it will be 28 spline. As long as a 9 inch chunk will go in I am home free. I really appreciate the follow up. Thanks

John
You're welcome John! We were really worried when first told we had an oddball that couldn't get gears for, but once we found out the 3rd members fit it was a sigh of relief!
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I think it was more about me getting up each morning and going out to say good morning to the project car before starting on the bathroom.
That is impossible!!

My day starts by,

climbing out of bed
getting up off the floor( darn puppy )
stumbling to the pot and letting her rip!
cleaning up the mess and making a mental note to check the position of the lid
staggering to closet for some form of body cover
getting off the floor ( gol darn puppy)
clutching bannister while desending stairs ( eyes have not even tried to open)
getting up off the floor ( GD puppy)
lurching to kitchen and starting coffee pot
cleaning up the mess and mentally making a note to check and see if coffee pot lid is actually open)
taking what ever medication is needed in morning
counting to three and then checking to see if heart actually started
shuffling to laundry room to get milk bones for dogs
getting up off the floor ( MF-----g puppy!)
beating off hoards of dogs off while distributing milk bones
staring at missing sleeve on shirt while looking for that #@^%$^&! puppy!
back to kitchen for coffee
cleaning up mess and mentally making note to check mug to see if lid is off)
stare out window in general direction of shop to look at project car
spend next half hour looking for glasses
discover reminents of $600 glasses
turn to get gun to shoot puppy
get up off the floor (found puppy)
find towel to wipe puppy kisses off face
turn to go to computer room
get up off the floor ( miserable stinking @#@&^$&^% puppy!)
make mental note to self to kick the crap out of Quido, the instructor at the "Acme School of Puppy Training"
log on to Hotrodders.com to look at anybodys project that's moving along
make mental note to someday build shrine to John and Randy
slug down first gulp of coffee
wipe tears of pain from eyes while making mental note to next time wait until coffee is under 200 degrees before taking first sip.
discover coffee has no taste then realize lips and tongue are nothing but blisters
settle back for a morning of computer pleasure on Hotrodders.com seeing what my buddies are doing and dispencing valuable knowledge to my peers
start crying when wife enters my santorum and screeches " Are you going to sit there all day with your pants on backwards? The puppy needs walking!"

That's my morning.

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That is impossible!!

My day starts by,

climbing out of bed
getting up off the floor( darn puppy )
stumbling to the pot and letting her rip!
cleaning up the mess and making a mental note to check the position of the lid
staggering to closet for some form of body cover
getting off the floor ( gol darn puppy)
clutching bannister while desending stairs ( eyes have not even tried to open)
getting up off the floor ( GD puppy)
lurching to kitchen and starting coffee pot
cleaning up the mess and mentally making a note to check and see if coffee pot lid is actually open)
taking what ever medication is needed in morning
counting to three and then checking to see if heart actually started
shuffling to laundry room to get milk bones for dogs
getting up off the floor ( MF-----g puppy!)
beating off hoards of dogs off while distributing milk bones
staring at missing sleeve on shirt while looking for that #@^%$^&! puppy!
back to kitchen for coffee
cleaning up mess and mentally making note to check mug to see if lid is off)
stare out window in general direction of shop to look at project car
spend next half hour looking for glasses
discover reminents of $600 glasses
turn to get gun to shoot puppy
get up off the floor (found puppy)
find towel to wipe puppy kisses off face
turn to go to computer room
get up off the floor ( miserable stinking @#@&^$&^% puppy!)
make mental note to self to kick the crap out of Quido, the instructor at the "Acme School of Puppy Training"
log on to Hotrodders.com to look at anybodys project that's moving along
make mental note to someday build shrine to John and Randy
slug down first gulp of coffee
wipe tears of pain from eyes while making mental note to next time wait until coffee is under 200 degrees before taking first sip.
discover coffee has no taste then realize lips and tongue are nothing but blisters
settle back for a morning of computer pleasure on Hotrodders.com seeing what my buddies are doing and dispencing valuable knowledge to my peers
start crying when wife enters my santorum and screeches " Are you going to sit there all day with your pants on backwards? The puppy needs walking!"

That's my morning.

BB
Now you need to pay for my keyboard cleanup from the coffee I spit on it.
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Good one BB.

Probably one of the funniest article I have ever read,,
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That is impossible!!

My day starts by,

climbing out of bed
getting up off the floor( darn puppy )
stumbling to the pot and letting her rip!
cleaning up the mess and making a mental note to check the position of the lid
staggering to closet for some form of body cover
getting off the floor ( gol darn puppy)
clutching bannister while desending stairs ( eyes have not even tried to open)
getting up off the floor ( GD puppy)
lurching to kitchen and starting coffee pot
cleaning up the mess and mentally making a note to check and see if coffee pot lid is actually open)
taking what ever medication is needed in morning
counting to three and then checking to see if heart actually started
shuffling to laundry room to get milk bones for dogs
getting up off the floor ( MF-----g puppy!)
beating off hoards of dogs off while distributing milk bones
staring at missing sleeve on shirt while looking for that #@^%$^&! puppy!
back to kitchen for coffee
cleaning up mess and mentally making note to check mug to see if lid is off)
stare out window in general direction of shop to look at project car
spend next half hour looking for glasses
discover reminents of $600 glasses
turn to get gun to shoot puppy
get up off the floor (found puppy)
find towel to wipe puppy kisses off face
turn to go to computer room
get up off the floor ( miserable stinking @#@&^$&^% puppy!)
make mental note to self to kick the crap out of Quido, the instructor at the "Acme School of Puppy Training"
log on to Hotrodders.com to look at anybodys project that's moving along
make mental note to someday build shrine to John and Randy
slug down first gulp of coffee
wipe tears of pain from eyes while making mental note to next time wait until coffee is under 200 degrees before taking first sip.
discover coffee has no taste then realize lips and tongue are nothing but blisters
settle back for a morning of computer pleasure on Hotrodders.com seeing what my buddies are doing and dispencing valuable knowledge to my peers
start crying when wife enters my santorum and screeches " Are you going to sit there all day with your pants on backwards? The puppy needs walking!"

That's my morning.

BB
Yeah !!!! Coke doesn't come off the key board to easy..
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Maybe this thread should be pinned as a Sticky or a tutorial. I know I want to refer back to it when I start work on mine, not only for the inspiration that John Long provides but the many helpful hints related through the ongoing back and forth.
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DAM You ,Booth boy.... aught me ompletely off guard and sprayed my omputor with offee...I think my "SEE" key shorted out...
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DB, all I can say is"D--m puppy!"

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