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Old 07-23-2008, 08:59 AM
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'53 P/u and which suspension?

This question is asked over and over on every website I go to but I can't seem to find the right answer. I have been looking around for the past few weeks everyday so I figured I'd just see what the experts have to say about it. This sit has a ton of great info on almost everything.

Ive heard that you cant keep the original inline six in the truck if you use a TCI IFS because the cross member will hit the oil pan. I would probably like to go with a 350. However I keep hearing different stuff about which frame I should use. I thought about the s10 but I think it sits a little higher than I would like. I thought about the Mustang II ifs. I also want the front and the rear to sit level or have the rear end just a tad higher but nothing insane. Ive heard stories about people getting the front to low and than they are screwed. People also say go with either the camaro or nova clip. Please be very detailed about this because this will be my first extensive project. Sorry to be repetitive. Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:21 AM
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i use the camaro/nova clips a lot. i do not care for mll. i also use the s10 front frame section to graft to the frame. on my 46 ford the s10 slides into the ford frame in the middle of the door. mates up really good. here is the last camaro clip i did. this truck rides great. and no the tires do not hit the black truck needed some lowering blocks in the rear but i left that up to the owner.
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Around here the Nova/Camaro clips are getting tough to get so L am looking more toward the S-10 because they are readily available. Tip if you have not done this before is to block the chassis at ride height and take the springs and shocks out of the clip so you can adjust the height easily..then slide the pieces together so you can see where and how much you need to trim to get it all to fit together..and check you alignment before you weld as I have seen some of these swaps "dog walk" because the guy did not measure 3-4 times and weld once..

Strike a center line of the vehicle on the garage floor and then the centerlines of the axles where they go..so you have reference points to work from..I spend a substantial amount of time on my setup so the chassis comes out "right" and very close to finished ride height..That way I can get some better handling and driving..The casual observer will never see that work but the driver will sure like it..

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http://streetrodengineering.com/

Has anyone on here used this guy before on an advanced design pickup? On this site I really like the stance of the truck but I want to know if its a dependable setup. It shows to have a hub-to-hub kit for about $1700 which is reasonable.
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Ive heard that you cant keep the original inline six in the truck if you use a TCI IFS because the cross member will hit the oil pan.

. Sorry to be repetitive. Thanks in advance.
I would contact TCI directly. They should know if their front end will fit with the origianl I6.
If they don't, then I think I would contact some other manufacturer.
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Well I actually changed my mind and want something with a little more power. I have a buddy that started building a 350 a while back and had the block honed and never actually finished it so I am going to get it for pretty cheap.
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This is a 58 Chevy truck I did with a nova. and a 57 Chevy car I did with the camaro. The nova is 1.5'' narrower then the camaro.hub to hub. This is how the 57 sat when done.
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we did this one in 94. it has the entire camaro clip under it.
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I have a Volare under my 53 F100. Like it just fine. Fairly straight forward install. Rides and drives great. Have you looked at the www.ford-trucks.com site? If not, look at the 48-60 F1 and F100 forum, take a look at #4 Read First for Suspension Alternatives. Lots of good info specific to your truck there. Joe
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suspension

Here is a way to lower the rear. I used Crysler leaf springs(5th ave. S.W.) I used a TCI Must II in this one, but prefer GM clips.
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This is how I lowered the 58 chevy I did.Put the rear end on top of the springs,c-notch the frame.Then you can put what ever size block's between the rear end and spring. Didn't have to use block's on this one,It was low enough.
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i simply reverse the rear shackles and use a 1 in lowering block. easiest way to do a rear on early gm's.
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Just watch your pinion angle......
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Try a look-see at this: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...APS_YOU_CAN_DO.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonBlair
http://streetrodengineering.com/

Has anyone on here used this guy before on an advanced design pickup? On this site I really like the stance of the truck but I want to know if its a dependable setup. It shows to have a hub-to-hub kit for about $1700 which is reasonable.

i've used a couple (47 plymouth and a 50 dodge).
there will not be a 3rd...

btw, if you think you can handle it (i don't mean this as an insult), a 79-87 G body clip fits nice but as always, the steering box gets in the way....
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