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Old 04-21-2010, 01:32 PM
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It would be best if the frame is boxed for about 18 to 24 inches where the C notch is and weld in the clam shell piece. With just a chunk cut out of the frame for clearance it would weaken the frame, could crack and break.
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Thats what I figured -- plus if I am doing all this why leave a BIG UGLY thing like that under there , right!

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I definately want to keep my 4 speed on the floor. What years for chevy 327 were the best in case I find a good one on craigslist? Sorry for the lame questions but I am totally new at this and just don't want to get ripped off.
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maybe someone else can chime in here, but i don't think any shortbed truck came with a 4 speed. only 3100 had the short stepside, should have a 3-on-the-tree. the trans should be free hanging off the bellhousing, the bellhousing has side mounts on a big xmember, the motor mounts are located on the front of the motor connecting into the bigger front xmember.

a 4 speed trans in that yr would be a top loader, heavy duty, granny gear type trans, with the parking brake mounted on the back of the trans.

where are your motor/trans mounts? i'm thinking you have a newer 4 speed car trans? am i right? what model is your truck?
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:59 PM
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oh it was c notched and kinda ugly too .. what I noticed is that it was notched but didn't weld on the clamshell piece I have seen in ecklers and other catalogs -- how necessary is this piece ?
at a minimum your c-notch should have a cup around the axle and be boxed 24". if you had a pickup i'd suggest pulling the box off to do it right. your sort of screwed with a panel. you have no choice but to do it on your back. poor boy burn baby burn...

you still have the leaf springs, everytime you flex those springs, you push up or pull down on that rear spring mount. you will crack the frame.

i had my bed off the truck when i c-notched and reinforced the frame. i boxed the full length of the frame and i also added the tophat section over the c-notch. it comes within 1/4" of the bed wood. i did a minimal c-notch, maybe should have made it bigger. there's also a rubber bump srop on the othe side of the frame. my truck will never see a load again, unless you consider a couple of suitcases a load.


this is an 89 trans am rearend. 2.26 posi with disc brakes and factory torsion bar. fit is excellent. after painting, new discs, pads & rotors, new line and installing; i was reading on a trans am forum of how the disc parking brake sucks. right now i have no parking brake and no plans of putting one in.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:01 PM
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or any other V8 you mite want to install, it don't have to be a Chevrolet.
oh the shame, oh the shame...
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:49 PM
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Cool , sits nice and low. Measure the distance between the lug studs center to center on the front wheels and then the rear to find out if both are GM pattern. Gene
57 halfton - or anyone really

the rearend has 12 bolts on the cover and leaking from the cover and both ends of the axle tubes

The bolt pattern seems to be 5x 2.75"+/- lug to lug ... 4.5" from lug to the lug across from it ( circumference ) .

I also noticed while I was under there that the diff
in the back has apparently been hitting the ply wood floor .

Not sure if that's the shocks being bad or what I can do to correct this

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Old 04-23-2010, 11:31 AM
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if you can do subaru forester aluminum radiators I know a whole bunch of people that will be your best friend!!

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Old 04-23-2010, 01:22 PM
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55chevypanel: here's a pic from my archives. i bought this in 76, still own it. though it hasn't looked this good since

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Old 04-23-2010, 01:25 PM
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very nice!
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heres how mine looks right now -- makes me a little sad to see her this way , but I can rebuild her I have the technology
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My 59 chevy stepside truck 3100 stepside

Yes I have a 4 speed in it..It is granny 1st type.
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Ogre , Iv'e had 3 57 3100's over the years and were all original when I got then and all 3 had compound low 4 speeds.
Under the hood of these trucks theres enough room to put any engine in , my 2nd 57 was a 4X4 with late model running gear and I put a 455 Olds engine in it and that worked great. I don't think I would go as far as to put a Ford motor in it, but maybe a 392 Chrysler Hemi, that would be alot of WOW factor when you open the hood. The 57 I have now has an old tired 350 in it, But i think it would be cool to put a 409 in it.
55panel , Sounds like you have a 12 bolt passenger car rearend in your panel. Can you post a pic ? If you can measure the overall width of the rearend, wheel mounting surface on the brake drum to the same place on the other side.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:18 AM
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Ogre , Iv'e had 3 57 3100's over the years and were all original when I got then and all 3 had compound low 4 speeds.
i stand corrected, every 3100 i owned had a 3 on the tree. i thought only 3/4 ton and up had the 4 speed, that's why i asked for others to chime in. my 59 panel had a 4 speed but it's a 3800 1 ton.

and yes, there is plenty of room for any GM motor.

my 56 48 pass schoolbus/camper had a 396, 4 speed and a 2 speed vacume rearend.
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WOW , Ogre , You go big time. A 1 ton panel and a 56 48 pass bus/camper.
What else you have ?
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55panel , Sounds like you have a 12 bolt passenger car rearend in your panel. Can you post a pic ? If you can measure the overall width of the rearend, wheel mounting surface on the brake drum to the same place on the other side.
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my camera took a dump --- is having a 12 car ear end a bad thing ? is there a better rear end for this application ?
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A 12 bolt car rearend is a good thing. If the width is right and the tires and wheels fit like you want then your good to go. I think you said it leaks oil ?
Drain the oil and put new seals in with a new cover gasket and call it DONE!
Does it have a couple of round things on the top of the center section that holds rubber bushings ?
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