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Old 12-16-2010, 05:28 PM
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welcome to the thread...

check out brothers one pice window kit.
i have them in my truck, i was going with vent windows.
mine were shot and would have cost twice as much to repair, than to buy the kit.

I have the one piece kit too, they are awesome, much better than look than those crappy dated vent windows.

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:58 PM
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I have the one piece kit too, they are awesome, much better than look than those crappy dated vent windows.
I bought the Brothers kit as well. The best part (other than a cleaner look) is the amount of room you have to put your arm out the window.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:27 PM
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what happens to most frame swaps

while i believe some of you that want to swap frames on your truck will actualy finish the job.
i also believe most frame swaps end up like this project aka parts truck
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X2 , I really don't understand why everyone wants to put an S10 frame under everything.
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Indpendant front suspension for a much better ride, power steering for obvious reasons, and most important of all is front disc brakes without an expensive kit.
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:52 AM
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pertronix

thanks for tips on the HEI. it sounds like i can go the pertronix route or a small cap HEI??

i've seen a few pertronix products, if anyone has any specific product info on what i would purchase, i would appreciate it. thanks!
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:11 AM
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X2 , I really don't understand why everyone wants to put an S10 frame under everything.
Same here, the original frame is made for the body ,it seems like a lot of work for a nothing. A subframe is a lot easier,faster and cheaper but you need to know quite a bit to get it set up right,a fatman kit would be best if your budget could handle it...A friend of mine just had a whole frame built with all the goodies for 6,000 what a deal ,if you can afford it...
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:58 AM
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that guy on ebay probably has $4k in parts and a buy it now price at $1200

6 grand for a complete roller?
if i paid myself $1/hr and really figured in all the little $2 to $10 parts i bought for my frame
i might have come out even by buying the roller and i wouldn't be riding on my bump stops half the time.
but what the heck, half the fun of getting there is the experience of getting there

i still say your better off with a mustII vs subframe
mine came with ss a-arms and all new parts for a little under $1900
any 60s or early 70s subframe will need a complete rebuild of all the components
and will still cost you $1000 to $1500 and a whole lot more labor to get under your truck
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:12 AM
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thanks for tips on the HEI. it sounds like i can go the pertronix route or a small cap HEI??

i've seen a few pertronix products, if anyone has any specific product info on what i would purchase, i would appreciate it. thanks!
bmore
i don't know of a small cap hei that will work without a oem computer module
the pertronics is just a points replacement that you will never need to adjust again
they use a magnetic sensor to fire the the coil
it uses a regular coil, you don't need a different one and you also eliminate the condenser
summit has them for $80 but look around for a sale, they're all the same
my son has had the same pertronics on his elco for the past 8 yrs
i did recomend to him to keep a set of points handy in case it ever failed, but he hasn't had to use it
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:46 AM
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I have run the pertronix conversion kits in 3 of my rides , And never had any problems. Well just one time and that was because someone hooked the battery up wrong fried a set then "HUMAN ERROR". Other then that they have alway's been good to me.JMO Just don't go off and leave the key on that can burn them up. But i myself would run them as have and i like them a cheap but good fix IMHO. L ike stated keep a set of points for extra security. The pertronix you can have a set in like 10 min or less easy job, JMO
you can install them with the distributor in or out i have done both.



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Yup,6,000 for a complete bolt on roller..of coarse, he had to bring the old frame to them (one of those fat fenderd cars) but it only took a couple days and Charlotte is just a few hrs away from here.
When I subed mine I only had to put control arm bushings in it ,I threw all the other stuff out and used a pwr rack....ball joints ,wheel bearings and rotors were all still in good shape but still cheap ,ez to find and replace...I do like those (expensive)tubular control arms and I'll up date with them later on when I can better afford them. But all and all I had a good time installing my subframe and learned a lot about suspensions and whats interchangable... I also used 12" rotors from a 95 impalia on my 80 camero subframe .Sure, the job was a lot of work but I'll do it all again on my next one.I enjoy fabricating and welding ,why let someone else have all the fun...
Those pre made kits sure are nice and a lot easier to install though....
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:41 PM
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I'm kinda like DBM, I like fabrication work but, only if it ain't there to begin with. Like if I bought a truck with no front ent. I enjoy fixing things and make them work right again and maybe improve them more. Old fashioned, hard headed, call me whatever, but I'm not gonna butcher the suspension out of my truck and put anything under it. I'm just gonna rebuild and improve whats there. I'll accept the leaf spring front end with upgrades and keep the truck original to what it is. I'll take DD's word that with swaybars and the right shock package and power steering they don't ride that bad. The '58 I used to have actually rode good as a daily driver, but could have used power steering and more horsepower. Okay that's my 2 pennies. olnolan
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Yup,6,000 for a complete bolt on roller..of coarse, he had to bring the old frame to them (one of those fat fenderd cars) but it only took a couple days and Charlotte is just a few hrs away from here.
When I subed mine I only had to put control arm bushings in it ,I threw all the other stuff out and used a pwr rack....ball joints ,wheel bearings and rotors were all still in good shape but still cheap ,ez to find and replace...I do like those (expensive)tubular control arms and I'll up date with them later on when I can better afford them. But all and all I had a good time installing my subframe and learned a lot about suspensions and whats interchangable... I also used 12" rotors from a 95 impalia on my 80 camero subframe .Sure, the job was a lot of work but I'll do it all again on my next one.I enjoy fabricating and welding ,why let someone else have all the fun...
Those pre made kits sure are nice and a lot easier to install though....

Is there a VIN stamped on the 55-59 frame? I can't seem to find one. My truck was the unfortunate victim of a hit-and-runner who busted the rear axle & bent the frame. does the DMV care if i have a different frame underneath the body? anyone have any tips for massaging a frame rail back into place?

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Old 12-19-2010, 06:30 AM
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Is there a VIN stamped on the 55-59 frame? I can't seem to find one. My truck was the unfortunate victim of a hit-and-runner who busted the rear axle & bent the frame. does the DMV care if i have a different frame underneath the body? anyone have any tips for massaging a frame rail back into place?

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post some pics and we'll give you our opinions ...
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:41 AM
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tweedleDee the vin should be on the top of the frame -drivers side -by the cab. My 59 had it under the cab just a little bit.I never checked the frame on this 58.
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