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Tweedledee , on a 57 I did many years ago I found numbers on the top of frame near the steering box and the parking brake linkage and there was also another set of the same numbers on the top of the frame under the cab. I think the vin numbers that need to match are the ones on the vin plate on the windshield post inside the door jamb.
Also there is a guy in Santa Clara that had a good frame for 200.00 bucks last July when I was looking for another one. He has alot of parts for 47/59 Chevy pickup and 55/57 cars. His name is Allen his business is Chevy Ready Phone number is 498 727 8294.
If the frame numbers dont match the cab numbers and the title dont tell DMV that anything has been changed, it will just confuse them more.

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Hey Cole , Whats the latest on that pickup ???????????
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Hey Cole , Whats the latest on that pickup ???????????
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Haven't heard anything yet from the owner, Still waiting


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tweedleDee the vin should be on the top of the frame -drivers side -by the cab. My 59 had it under the cab just a little bit.I never checked the frame on this 58.

Thanks 571/2ton, DD. DBM, all, here are some frame distortion pictures. the impact was primarily on the drivers side tire. Advice welcome - I'd hate for this to be the end for this old beast...

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Tweedledee , I see your pickup is 4 wheel drive with later model running gear. From the pics you posted it looks like the best thing would be to start over with another unmolested frame. Did you do the 4x4 conversion or buy it that way ? How is your mechanical and fabrication skills ?
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while i believe some of you that want to swap frames on your truck will actualy finish the job.
i also believe most frame swaps end up like this project aka parts truck
Their are several reasons I want to swap frames on my truck. First and foremost is the Brake system, I have had my brakes fail twice and am going to go to a dual master one way or another, second is the suspension although I love the look of the straight axle I have to be realistic, I live in the foothills of the Appalachian mountains and my car club regulary goes to Gatlinburg,Maggie valley, and Cherokee N.C.this involves going over the mountains and sometimes through a place known as the tail of the dragon (it aint no place to be testing some 60 year old brake system).and third I cant stop myself I need to do this. My last vehicle was a 49 chevy pu that was on a 79 chevy chassie It worked great this 59 is going on a 91 C1500 (Not an S10) I am not just swapping the frame but the floor and firewall of the 91 is going to be put into the 59. Thanks for the window info I had not heard of brothers before but I am headed there now!

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Old 12-20-2010, 10:35 AM
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my 58 has 4 wheel power disc brakes, IFS, 2 sway bars and a stock frame.

sounds like you are doing a full custom and know ahead of time the amount of work your getting into.
10 minutes with an imaginary tape measure tells me that you're in for a lot of fabrication.
just to get the steering column, brake pedal and gas pedal centered on the dash and drivers seat is a lot of fabrication.
by the time your done, you will have more in welding wire and gas than i have in my frame.

i too chose the custom route, i have as much time in my bed as i do in my cab and fenders.
usually the bed is a bolt it together and paint it project.

most of the frame swap questions come from zero fab experience guys looking for a cheap, fast and easy way out
frame swap are none of those.

cheap fast easy: pick two.

for a full custom, you have chose the ''none of the above'' option...


brothers and lmc truck is where i ended up buying most of my 55-59 specific parts.
for general hotrod parts, look around. everyone carries the same stuff at different prices.
brothers designed the window kit and is the only one that carries that window kit.
but they do have specials on the kit occasionally
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wow. that was a hard hit.
you are definitely in need of a new frame.
check out ebay and craigslist.org for a wreck/rusty/cheap 55-59 that you can pull the frame off of.
since you need a bed too, you kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
another good source is a project that someone gave up on.
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Tweedledee & Areopaw keep us up to date and post more pics of your projects. Aero will the front and rear track width fit inside the fenders of your old sheetmetal ? Tweedle I did a 4x4 conversion on a 57 pickup years ago, wish I still had it.
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Well I finally got the engine and trans back in the ole 56. Im gonna start wiring it up tonight. The harness im working with is for a hot rod but it uses atc fuses and the wires are dummy proof with printed words on the casing all the way down the wire!!! this should be the fastest wiring job ever! Im excited, i guess just because Im an electrical nerd.
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Well I finally got the engine and trans back in the ole 56. Im gonna start wiring it up tonight. The harness im working with is for a hot rod but it uses atc fuses and the wires are dummy proof with printed words on the casing all the way down the wire!!! this should be the fastest wiring job ever! Im excited, i guess just because Im an electrical nerd.
Good deal Tim, Glad you are back at it.



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Tweedledee & Areopaw keep us up to date and post more pics of your projects. Aero will the front and rear track width fit inside the fenders of your old sheetmetal ? Tweedle I did a 4x4 conversion on a 57 pickup years ago, wish I still had it.
Gene
the track width is almost perfect the wheelbase on the 91 is 3in longer than the 59, not a big deal. most of the measurements that I have taken are really close most less than 1in.the biggest problem will be in the dash and cowl area I want all of the late model components and the 59 style. Yes I know it will be more work than most will think it's worth but when someone who knows what it took to do this is looking your truck over and is impressed or says it looks factory that is why I do it.
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found you a complete truck for $1000 just 10 miles from you
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2117179364.html
between having a parts truck and selling parts
you would come out ahead dollar wise

i would also email anyone with 55-59 truck parts
as i looked thru craigslist in the bay area i am amazed at the low buck
reletively rust free projects out there.
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tweedledee
found you a complete truck for $1000 just 10 miles from you
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2117179364.html
between having a parts truck and selling parts
you would come out ahead dollar wise

i would also email anyone with 55-59 truck parts
as i looked thru craigslist in the bay area i am amazed at the low buck
reletively rust free projects out there.
Thanks Ogre -

yes, there seem to be many projects & parts available within a short distance. I actually have the bed, and the damage is not that substantial. i think i just need one fender rather than the whole thing. Because the truck is lifted substantially, the impact was on the tire rather than the bed. The problem is more time & lack of skill since parts are fairly easy to find.

Gene, your suggestion of Ready Chevy is a good one - he still has that same frame available, and 200 bucks doesn't seem outrageous. I haven't been to see it yet tho. Any suggestions on how to pick a good frame? check for square, check to see if it's in line? How much out of line is okay - 1/8"? Obviously, it had better look better than the one I have...

swapping the frame is a good opportunity to do some other things too - box in frame, DD's sway bar, paint... basically put this thread to good use! of course that means that it will probably be 3 years or so before the truck drives again.

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Old 12-22-2010, 12:34 PM
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... of course that means that it will probably be 3 years or so before the truck drives again.

-Abe
took me 7yrs, but my wife says she can use a sun dial to check my movements...

i doubt if the stock frame is within 1/8'', just check for obvious damage and rust thru.
make sure it's a 1/2 ton frame as the bigger frames are hard to get parts for
after market stuff will not fit.
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