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$64.000 Question

I have an identity problem and need the assistance of the hotrodders at large. I have a 23 T Bucket that has a torn motor mount bracket and I cant find out what or where it came from. The T frame was built before i aquired the car, and the owner who did the fabrication just took the mount off the shelf and cant remember what it was originally for. The rubber isolator is part of the frame bracket, so i think it a GM and after 1972 or so. I am trying to find a replacement so i dont have to drill or weld the powdercoated frame and mess up a good car. i have attached a couple pics. so Im asking all the gearheads if they can remember seeing these mounts, or something similar, on any cars in the past. Any help would sure be appreciated,
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:04 PM
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Can't say I ever seen one..
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Me either. There's a 90% chance its a small block mount, Google Ford small block motor mounts, Chevrolet small block motor mounts, etc., lots of pictures will come up, sift through them. If a picture caption doesn't show the specifics, it will probably show where the mount is from.
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Parts house picture books

If you can find a Real parts house that still has the old books. you can go thru the picture section, You didn't say what engine you have. mount separation was a problem in the old days. I have welded an chunk of iron strap for left hand mounts after breaking a few rubber pieces. later replacement parts that meet Fed Regulations have a thru safety rivet to hold the engine in place. 60's Gm cars would let the engine move and lock up the steering shaft when the mounts broke. You might be able to seperate the frame mount piece and adapt a later mount to it so you don't mess up your paint.
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it does look like a early chebby mount.. i used something similar when i built my bucket (sold) but i don't recall the name either. it would have been in my build book...
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Thanks for the help.....i have a 1974 buick 305 w/T350 trans and 373gears. Everytime you stop, i put it in Neutral to keep the charging system at 14 V, so it jumps a bit when shifting into Drive.

Im pretty sure its a GM mount for the earlier cars, but ive wore out the search buttons and havent gotten lucky yet. I was hopeing someone could get me to the right car, or even year to getbit replaced.

This is the Frame Bracket with the rubber isolator,,,,,,the engine mount is solid and no isolator. As i said above, i can get this welded and make it solid, but im concerned about the load on the frame if its a solid mount. Not thr HP ,,,the torque when shifting duringbstop and go traffic......

Thanks again, and keep looking thru those older build books......somebody has seen this before! ! ! !
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mount id.

IF you look very close,at the rubber on that mount,theyre MAY be a part # on it...
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Thanks for the help.....i have a 1974 buick 305 w/T350 trans and 373gears. Everytime you stop, i put it in Neutral to keep the charging system at 14 V, so it jumps a bit when shifting into Drive.

Im pretty sure its a GM mount for the earlier cars, but ive wore out the search buttons and havent gotten lucky yet. I was hopeing someone could get me to the right car, or even year to getbit replaced.
Do you mean a Buick 350, or a Chevy 305 that may have come out of a Buick?

In any case, that's NOT a GM frame mount. That's a rubber motor mount that normally bolts to the side of the block. Whoever built your car may have bolted it to the frame instead, but it's not a frame side mount. The only GM frame-side mounts with rubber are the Chevy "clamshell" mounts, where the metal outer shell totally encircles the rubber to prevent exactly the failure you have.

Also, the mount you have is pre-1969. All GM factory mounts since 1969 have incorporated integral interlocking tabs to prevent EXACTLY the separation you have. There was a massive recall in the late 1960s because of this problem. Old-style mounts that were simply a rubber block between two pieces of metal were coming apart, and with the solid metal throttle linkage of the day, the throttle would jam open when the broken driver's side mount allowed the engine to torque over.

The mount you have looks like either a Buick or Olds motor mount.

Here's the Chevy clamshell frame mount:



Here's a Buick motor mount for the 1961-63 215 aluminum V8 motors that bolts to the block in the stock application. Note that all motor mounts today are larger and have the interlocking feature, so they don't look exactly like old ones:

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Joe_padavano. I think you have found the golden egg. It sure looks like the Buick engine mount in your reply, and if its close I can make it work.

Thanks again Joe !
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Final note,,,,joe it is a Olds Buick mount,,,specifically for the Aluminum 215ci V8 just as you said....isnt this place WONDERFUL,,,,Joe, i owe you a beverage of your choice,,,,Hope you are close to Dallas Tx,,,,If not Ill just have to send it by T Bucket.....Again many thanks,,,,Nick
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Joe_padavano. I think you have found the golden egg.
So long as I didn't LAY an egg...

Glad to help. Hope that works out for you.

By the way, the beverage would be nice, but I was kinda hoping for the $64,000.
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