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64 Dash re-cover questions.

My 64 Tempest dash has several dash cracks that I was thinking of filling and spraying with dye. But after looking closer at the dash the vynil is very brittle after 50 years and the whole guts of the dash is metal. It looks like it might be easier to just strip it down to bare metal and recover it. I had a heck of time taking the dash off the car. The screws on the bottom sunk past the rock hard bynil and didn't want to drop out and the lip of the vynil on top was catching the bezel.

A new dash is $179 and only comes in black. My experience with aftermarket dashes has not been good.

I see that OPGI sells seville vinyl grain in Dark Aqua for 42.99 a yard.
1964 GTO PUI Vinyl Yardage Seville grain @ OPGI.com
How wide is a role? I assume I would need two yards? Anyone know of a cheaper source?

Also would I want to use 1/4 Volara foam under the vynil?

Then I just planed on getting a gallon of the HHR DAP and a cheap HF spray gun.

Any tips would be appretiated.

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Normally material comes in 60" widths, but I'd contact the seller to confirm width.
I wouldn't bother with a sprayer. On small jobs I just use a brush to apply the contact cement, and it works great.
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If it's original automotive fabric, it can come in 60" widths, or bigger. I just did a seat for a 63 Fairlane with fabric that was 64" wide. Original Automotive vinyl can come in a lot of different widths. I have some vinyl right now that is original to a 1960 Cadillac that is only 54" wide, which is normal. Be sure before you order.

Try Original Auto Interiors and SMS Fabrics. You probably won't find the vinyl any cheaper than that.

Be aware that original vinyl is not as soft and stretchy as newer vinyls. Be sure your skill level is such that you can do this job. You need to make the dash padding as thick as it was originally or it may look funny in the car. You can brush the contact adhesive on if you want, but if you plan on doing more interior work, a spray gun is the way to go. Check out this Wiki article: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ntact_adhesive
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I agree with Dan on the spray gun if you're going to do a lot of interior work! Since my interior work is limited to an occasional personal build, I get by with the brush. But it does take a lot longer to brush than spray, but cleanup is just tossing the brush, and closing the can.
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If you buy a gun with siphon feed from a cup and external mix, which mixes the air and the glue at the tip, you don't ever have to clean it. I've used the same spray gun for 15 years, and I've never cleaned it. The gun still costs under $20 at Harbor Freight.
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If you buy a gun with siphon feed from a cup and external mix, which mixes the air and the glue at the tip, you don't ever have to clean it. I've used the same spray gun for 15 years, and I've never cleaned it. The gun still costs under $20 at Harbor Freight.
Excellent Dan! Thanks for the tip!
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I should add that I use mine almost every day, but sometimes I go a week or two without using it and it still sprays with no problem.
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Mr TwoLakes,

Any recommendation on the foam to use under the vynil? I assume the volara either 1/8 or 1/4 thick? I have seen where you recommended closed cell foam in the past. Is that only if the person needs to shape the foam?

Also I assume that I would still want to get a gallon of the HHR DAP even if I brush the stuff on correct? You are correct that I don't see me using the stuff all that often.
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You will find that the Volara closed cell foam will work very well on your dash. Make sure you scuff both sides with a Scotchbrite pad or something similar. If you don't the glue won't be able to grab the foam. It is very firm, so it will hold its shape. Try to find an upholstery shop that will sell you a quart of the contact adhesive, that should be more than what you need. Take a glass jar with a lid with you.
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Thanks Dan and everyone else that chimed in.
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My dash recover has taken a small turn. It doesn't look like I can strip the cover off and use 1/4 foam over it like I thought. I used a long pin to measure the depth at different spots and it is different depths so they must have used a molded foam over the metal dash.

Anyway the plan now is to just cover over the existing dash. I plan to cut the edges off and remove the glued down over lap so I don't have much build up. It fits pretty snug over the bezel.

My question is about how best to fill the cracks in the existing dash. My first thought was just use bondo filler but now I think that would be a terrible idea. I'm sure moisture would expand the bondo over time.

I see there is a product out there called padded dash filler. My dash is pretty hard and brittle but in pretty good shape with the exception of about 5 cracks in the old vinyl. I don't need a lot just something to fill the cracks that I can sand smooth.

Any products you think might work?

Also I got the vinyl from a place called Gateway reproductions that PUI sent me to. They had a good price on the per yard. They killed me on shipping $31.50. Seems everyone is getting screwed on shipping charges these days.
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I've used this from UrethaneSupply.com. Works pretty good, but my pad still cracked after using it. Prolly because I didn't prep it right, but it did work to fill the gaps...

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I've used this from UrethaneSupply.com. Works pretty good, but my pad still cracked after using it. Prolly because I didn't prep it right, but it did work to fill the gaps...

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Yes that is the one I was talking about. If it doesn't absorb moisture and expand then I'm going to give it a try.
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Here's a how to from that same site: How to Repair Cracked Dashboard
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I'm so slow.... but now that the weather is getting nice I need to get on this.



Which adhesive do I want to buy? The HH-66 or the HHR contact cement?
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I'm still not sure If I should use any foam at all. After I fill the existing cracks in the dash with the urethane products padded dash filler and was planning on just laying over the top of the existing vinyl.
Can anyone see an issue with that are would I have better success with wrinkles and folds with 1/8 volara under the vinyl?

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