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matt167 06-18-2008 08:24 AM

'65 Rambler American engine swap
 
I have a '65 Rambler American with a 196 6cyl/ Auto. The engine is extremely tired and in need of a rebuild ( which I'm not going to bother with ). even though it starts easy, it uses a lot of gas and it smokes a lot ( blue, so I know it's blow-by as it never goes away ). I want to swap to a modern V8, preferably a Ford 302.. I know the BW-M35 trans ( what it has now ) uses most of the same internals as the BW derrived Ford FMX trans.. would the Rambler X member fit a FMX trans? I'm not worried about modification but if I don't have to, that would be awesome. The car is a daily driver so the least I have to worry, the better

FEDDO 06-18-2008 03:10 PM

just what I would do ,is locate a late model 5.0 with the aod trans, and go from there.

GunnerTHB 06-18-2008 03:39 PM

you will also need a true driveshaft and a different rear end. Rambler Americans had torque tubes and they are very weak. But, when you get that car done, it should be pretty quick due to it's low weight. Also, post some pictures

matt167 06-18-2008 04:03 PM

'64 Up Rambler Americans have open driveshafts, no torque tubes. '58-'63's did have torque tubes. If it was a torque tube I wouldn't bother.

I was actully thinking along the lines of a Crown Vic donor car for the engine/ trans.

FEDDO 06-18-2008 06:10 PM

that would work. i used an 88 t bird, and changed to a carb. I used lokar trans linkage for the tv hookup.

matt167 06-18-2008 06:51 PM

The junk yard I go to is a u pull it littered with crown vics.. but anything 302/AOD I will pull if it's good... less than $300 trans and engine togther from that yard.

GunnerTHB 06-18-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt167
'64 Up Rambler Americans have open driveshafts, no torque tubes. '58-'63's did have torque tubes.

I stand corrected

matt167 06-18-2008 07:38 PM

The rear end/ drive shaft does use a really weird pinion nut that is diffrent from normal cars. but that's not really a problem, as I'll just give the driveline shop the old 1 so they can salvage the end to make the new 1

farna 06-21-2008 05:05 PM

The only problem with using the original axle and driveshaft is the tiny universal joints. The axle is 7-9/16", and strong as a Ford 8", so it's okay for a stock 302 in a light car. If you put very big tires on and drop the pedal hard, the u-joint will break before anything else. 8" street tires (about all that will fit the wheel wells anyway) should be okay with normal driving, but keep a spare universal joint on hand. It will last a while, but how long I don't know. Those joints were used on Fords with the 200 six, but I think the 250 six cars used a bigger joint. No way to put a bigger joint on the original axle. That axle is narrow, but a Chevy S-10 (and probably Ford Ranger) axle will fit with a little work.

matt167 06-21-2008 07:21 PM

I'm keeping everything stock on the new engine/ trans. and keeping the rubber the stock size all the way round.

Ford 200 I6 cars came with a 71/4" rear end from 1960-1969 ( 8" after ), and the 250 cars came with a 8" or an odd 8.8" in 1978-1979 in some Mercury's. 1 of my other cars is a '67 Falcon 6cyl but I'v never changed the U joint on it... Didn't know they used the same joint as the Rambler :)

SSedan64 06-21-2008 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farna
The only problem with using the original axle and driveshaft is the tiny universal joints. The axle is 7-9/16", and strong as a Ford 8", so it's okay for a stock 302 in a light car. If you put very big tires on and drop the pedal hard, the u-joint will break before anything else. 8" street tires (about all that will fit the wheel wells anyway) should be okay with normal driving, but keep a spare universal joint on hand. It will last a while, but how long I don't know. Those joints were used on Fords with the 200 six, but I think the 250 six cars used a bigger joint. No way to put a bigger joint on the original axle. That axle is narrow, but a Chevy S-10 (and probably Ford Ranger) axle will fit with a little work.

Hey Farna is the Union Switch & Signal Co. still in biz in Batesburg? Used to work for them.


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