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Old 06-12-2008, 05:19 PM
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Hi Folks,

I am new to the forum as well as are issues with my new baby. I have 1969 "Drop Top" that gave me my first problem yesterday. I went to get a hair cut about 8 miles from the house on a beautiful 82 degree day. After making 2 other stops along the way, to drop off dry cleaning and get some cash, I parked my beauty on the curb in front of the establishment and went in to get my locks cut. The cut went well and after checking the oil before leaving civilization and a possible court of oil, I tried the ignition and NOTHING! A couple of plumbers pushed me so that I could pop the clutch and get home. Still Nothing! So now I know that we have a switch problem. Can someone tell me where the Clutch Override and any other potential issues are besides "Grounding issues". I am an electrician by trade and understand the plastic car and rubber mount issues, so I have checked them. We are all good I also have a strong battery so that potential issue is out too. I looked under the dash breifly last night and cannot see a switch outwardly that I need to check. I do see that the clutch linkage rod moves through the firewall and I have not had the time to get under the car and investigate the transmission. If someone would be so kind as to give me some direction as to where the Clutch Pedal Overide and the Neutral Safety switch are on the car, I would be grateful.

Johnny

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Old 06-12-2008, 05:33 PM
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if it was the clutch cut out, you would still be able to pop start it..what isn't working? sounds like a burnt up fuse link. interior dome lights, radio, headlights ect... any of that work?
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Matt,

No the clutch start did not work. The radio and other electrical system did. The battery is a healthy 13 volts.

Johnny
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right, if it did, that would mean the clutch cut out was to blame............ turn the ignition on, and check for voltage at the coil, if there is none, somthing is amiss with the wiring or ignition switch.. switch is a likely cause
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The clutch over ride just keeps the starter from engaging without the clutch being depressed. You are not getting voltage to the coil.

The key is on the column in a 69 Vette and a small rod ... runs thru the column down to a external switch ... mounted on the column. I suspect that it is your problem.



I took this photo off eBay ... it is a 69 Vette column. See the switch I am talking about??? It is just below where the column bolts to the dash It is the silver looking box.

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Hi guys..I am moving this to electrical forum..already some good tech on this issue but it does belong over there..

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Thanks Deuce!

I will take a look at the column after I have a well deserved end of week adult refreshment . Do you know where I might find a wedsite that has a library of shop drawing for my ride? I google searched and went through a few sites but did not find anything of use. Do you have the inside scoop???

Thanks agin'

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The clutch over ride just keeps the starter from engaging without the clutch being depressed. You are not getting voltage to the coil.

The key is on the column in a 69 Vette and a small rod ... runs thru the column down to a external switch ... mounted on the column. I suspect that it is your problem.



I took this photo off eBay ... it is a 69 Vette column. See the switch I am talking about??? It is just below where the column bolts to the dash It is the silver looking box.

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Thanks Guys

Matt, Sam and Deuce,

Thanks for great information. I will be working on the Vette tonight and will report back as to what the issue was.

Once again, thanks for all the great input!

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To PROVE to yourself that there is nothing wrong with the engine and the starter ... just run a hot wire ( 12 volts ) to the coil and use a remote starter ( like the Snap-On one in the photo ) on the starter it. Hit the remote starter button and the engine should run ... be sure the transmission is in neutral and the wheels chocked or the parking brake applied
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To PROVE to yourself that there is nothing wrong with the engine and the starter ... just run a hot wire ( 12 volts ) to the coil and use a remote starter ( like the Snap-On one in the photo ) on the starter it. Hit the remote starter button and the engine should run ... be sure the transmission is in neutral and the wheels chocked or the parking brake applied
Since it is a standard, make sure it is not in gear before you use the remote starter

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69 vette,

Does the amps gauge on the center dash move at all when you turn the ignition on?

Is there a dead spot in the starter? Try bumping the starter over down at the flywheel on the right side.

Last but not least, on the left side inner fender at the firewall on my '68 there is a small permanent silver fuse with two screws for connectors, check for continuity across these connectors. It is a main power fuse (30 amp). If you can't find it, I can send you a picture of it. Meanwhile, the 1970 Chassis Service Manual has a section in it on 69 Corvette's, I'll check for a schematic.
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Please find attached two line art sketches of 69 Vette wiring diagram.

Hope that this works out for you. CU ED
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