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6K To Spend, What Motor?

Hey Folks,

Your local moron here, again..

I have about 6K to spend on a new motor. I Need a turn key motor as what I have in my Merc is old and nasty, and like my Guy working on my car tells me, what I have was a junkyard small block even when it was put in back in 1978. SO I want everything new.

This is what I currently have: a 350 SBC and 350 Trans.

I decided to go with a 200R4 trans, down the road, but since I am going with bowtie over drives, they can build a super strong trans that can handle anything I throw at it in my price range.

So my question to you guys is what motor should I go with? And, should I go with the motor with the most possible horsepower and torque my 6K can get me? I am sticking with a Chevy sall block since my car is already set up for it..


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Sorry forgot to say my car is going to be a daily driver, in the sence that I'm going to drive it, not haul it, I have my pick up for the daily stuff. So the extra money spent on a chromed out motor is not of interest to me....
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Figure out how much power you want and go from there! You already said you want a SBC, are you looking for a parts list?

There are web sites that have many builds and dyno results, go with one of them. Also, do a search here.
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If you are going to use it as a daily driver, the 2004R is a good choice, adjusting the rear gears and tires to match are also a good compliment, and another good choice would be to go to EFI of some sort to get every bit out of every drop of fuel you can get. Even a 1/2 mpg is an improvement, at the very least.
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If you are going to use it as a daily driver, the 2004R is a good choice, adjusting the rear gears and tires to match are also a good compliment, and another good choice would be to go to EFI of some sort to get every bit out of every drop of fuel you can get. Even a 1/2 mpg is an improvement, at the very least.
Going to go Carbureted. JUst love the old school stuff.. adjusting the rear gears, and tires??? Whats that mean?
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Figure out how much power you want and go from there! You already said you want a SBC, are you looking for a parts list?

There are web sites that have many builds and dyno results, go with one of them. Also, do a search here.
I want as much power, and torque as I can get that will mean I will still have a reliable motor that doesnt need adjusting by me ( since I'm moronic ).. Reliability is a very very important thing...
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Messing with tire size and gear ratios to get the cruising speed (normally 60-65 mph) at an engine RPM range that allows for best mileage or power. you can only get certain gear ratios for ANY axle, but you can make up slight amounts of differences in ratios by swapping for a different tire size.

If you plan on spending all 6K on just your engine and nothing else, you pretty much have your mind all set and none of us can really help you any more. You say reliable motor that doesn't need adjusting by you?, and you insist on carbureted over EFI, you just contradicted yourself, there are more adjustments needed with some amount of re-adjusting to get even a brand new carb running even closely to what even a simple throttle body injector would require, and rebuilding a TBI is very simple and less than rebuilding even a Weber/Edelbrock style carb.

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If you plan on spending all 6K on just your engine and nothing else, you pretty much have your mind all set and none of us can really help you any more. You say reliable motor that doesn't need adjusting by you?,
No by 6K I mean that is the limit I have to spend. I am not at all set on anythying that is why I asked.
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and you insist on carbureted over EFI, you just contradicted yourself, there are more adjustments needed with some amount of re-adjusting to get even a brand new carb running even closely to what even a simple throttle body injector would require, and rebuilding a TBI is very simple and less than rebuilding even a Weber/Edelbrock style carb.
Really? I did not know carbureted was more difficult than EFI. The reason I DID NOT want to go EFI was because I did not want to purchase a computer to handle everything. If you can tell me that EFI is not more expensive, and easier to work with than I am all ears. I think my understanding of EFI is not correct.. Like I said your local Moron here asking questions..
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IMO, from your description of the intended usage I would go with a small block with the most torque and horsepower in a rpm range that is useful. Buying a engine with it's peak outputs in the off idle to 4500 rpm range would seem like the best pick. One that makes it's power from 2500 rpm and up would be a disappointment for a daily driver.
The 200 is a good choice as long as the final drive ratio is optimized for it. If you have tall gears, (lower numerically) very low 3's or even lower like into the 2 series and add a overdrive to it, it will be a poor performer when in over drive likely constant shifting in and out of OD with slight loads on the engine.
Carb vs. FI, for your use I would go carbed. Not only would you need the computer and proper wiring harness, and sensors the fuel system would need upgraded to a electric pump and a return system. A new quadrajet from a reputable source would be my choice, a nice small primary side to help with drive-ability and mileage and the added flow from the secondaries when needed.
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gm ramjet 350 crate motor if you want simple. i have one in my 58, it's plug and play. the ramjet package comes complete down to the oil filter and air cleaner are installed on the motor. it comes with it's own stand alone mefi controller and wiring harness. summit has this, but i found better pricing elsewhere.
i realy need to get a pic of the motor, this is mostly firewall
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gm ramjet 350 crate motor if you want simple. i have one in my 58, it's plug and play. the ramjet package comes complete down to the oil filter and air cleaner are installed on the motor. it comes with it's own stand alone mefi controller and wiring harness.
I second this. Get a low rpm (idle-5500) fuel injected crate motor. It will be more reliable and even better, theres a warranty.
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