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Old 02-23-2013, 12:09 AM
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I did not know that on my data plate it has body style Z28 .axle code Z27 but i dont know what a xle code means,I tried to print picture of The Z28 it will not download but it is on my photo galery.wish i still hab pontiacs Grand Prix or GTO.
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Here is a link to the Z27 for 72...they made them into the mid 70's as well

1972 Camaro data - Statistics, facts, decoding, figures & reference information

And this is what they said about the option for 72.

1972 Z27 Super Sport - Includes 200-hp Turbo-Fire 350 engine and bright accents; heavy duty engine mounts and starter; dual exhaust; LH remote control mirror; power brakes, special ornamentation; special hood insulation; F70-14B bias belted ply white lettered tires, 14" x 7" wheels; black painted grille; hide-a-way windshield wipers with black chrome finished arms and articulated left hand blade; SS emblems on steering wheel, fenders and grille (exc. when combined with RS) available with V8 only, available with 4-speed manual or automatic transmission only, optional engine is LS3 240 hp 396 - not available in California). 396 equipped SS's recieved a black painted rear panel & required RPO F41.

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I thought he was talking about a 77 ,there were no SS,NO Big Block Z28 had 15 inch tires ,special 5 spoke wheels No chrome ever thing was flat black exept 1 peice above door glass ??? i dont know why i will try to post picture i could not yesterday ,wheels in picture are not correct ,i have them but not on car.
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Seems only the American cars struggled in the 70s. Japan made some of the coolest cars during that time. Like the skyline in the picture. I think that compared to modern cars the 70s cars will still draw a lot of looks. They still have that raw feel to them. I know i get a ton of looks and compliments on my 78 and it doesn't even have any paint on it. Cars now are all boring looking, and although the 70's cars were a disappointment when new they're still really cool to see today.

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I didn't read all of this and maybe it's been mentioned but me and my exwife had a 77 Caprice classic that was a nice car. 350 4bbl. With a nice set of wheels they made a nice cruiser, comfortable to drive, rode nice. Also alot of the cars that we didn't like then look alittle better to us now.
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Bigger isn't always better, but the C3 Vette was the longest running Vette, had the biggest motor (454ci) and was the best seller (53,000 in '79 MY). It was, for better or worse, the Vette of the '70s. It also out acted Mark Hamill...(^-^)

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Bigger isn't always better, but the C3 Vette was the longest running Vette, had the biggest motor (454ci) and was the best seller (53,000 in '79 MY). It was, for better or worse, the Vette of the '70s.
It was also literally the longest Corvette by the end of the run, with all the government mandated energy absorbing bumpers. The early C3 was a gorgeous car, but those extensions on both ends sure made a gorgeous car homely.
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I always felt this particular model went a little bit against the grain of the trends, and with the narrow back window, was a pretty good looker, even with the railroad tie stuck to the front.



Came with a 9:1 245hp (in 1974 numbers) solid lifter 350 cubic inch V8. Four speed and 3.73 rear end. Not a bad little combo in the car.
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I always felt this particular model went a little bit against the grain of the trends, and with the narrow back window, was a pretty good looker, even with the railroad tie stuck to the front.



Came with a 9:1 245hp (in 1974 numbers) solid lifter 350 cubic inch V8. Four speed and 3.73 rear end. Not a bad little combo in the car.
Sort of a transition model. Still had the flat rear window of the early 2nd gens, but GM's first attempt to abide by the big bumper rules. 've seen a few that had those large bumpers reworked to tuck them in, and narrow them down, and they were a marked improvement over the original look.
The flat rear glass creates a huge blind spot (had a '71 for 40 yrs!) but they just look better to my eyes.
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Had a 79 Firebird, yeah its a late 70s car, but it was fun when it wasnt broken lol. I think Pontiac did well when they released the SD. Keep in mind that alot of companies had to lie about HP ratings for insurance reasons and smog regulations.
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Had a 79 Firebird, yeah its a late 70s car, but it was fun when it wasnt broken lol. I think Pontiac did well when they released the SD. Keep in mind that alot of companies had to lie about HP ratings for insurance reasons and smog regulations.
By the mid 70's nobody had to lie about HP ratings anymore! By that time almost everything was anemic, and under powered. Late 60's is when most of the fibbing was done by car makers. Those were the years when Chevy said the 302 Z/28 was making 290 hp, and all the car magazines were putting them on dynos and finding they made 135-140 hp more!
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I think the decade had some interesting cars, like the Vega Cosworth, that didn't reach their potential. What other notable rides can you recall from that time?


My buddy had a Cosworth Vega just like that
In the early-70's, I always liked the Camaros, Firebirds, Plymouth Dusters, Torinos, and Lemans/GTOs
In the mid-70's, my favorites would be the Monza, Monte Carlo, and Grand Prix
Late-70's would be the Ford Futura (remember Bob Glidden's?), Plymouth Arrow, Dodge Mirada, and the Chrysler Cordoba

Used to see a red '77 Cordoba around town that looked stock in every detail, white wall tires, hub caps, quiet pipes, the whole bit ......
It wasn't until he unleashed the Hemi under the hood, and smoked the tires for three blocks, that you realized something was up

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The flat rear glass creates a huge blind spot (had a '71 for 40 yrs!) but they just look better to my eyes.
I agree. The wrap around windshield just doesn't do it for me on this body style, I think it messes up the look of the car from a profile view. I'm not a big fan of when they went to the vents, scoops, spoilers and plastic bumper look of the 78-82 models. Just too much going on for me. Here's a good example:

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I agree. The wrap around windshield just doesn't do it for me on this body style, I think it messes up the look of the car from a profile view.
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I'm not a big fan of when they went to the vents, scoops, spoilers and plastic bumper look of the 78-82 models. Just too much going on for me.
The Camaro was neither great nor bad, IMHO ...
But WTF were they thinking (smoking, whatever) when they designed the front end of any of the Firebirds between '79 and '91???

Then again, these are the same people who grafted a Sunbird on top of a Blazer and called it the Aztec -- Maybe they should have sold those in China ... Under the name of "Foo King Ugg Li"

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I agree. The wrap around windshield just doesn't do it for me on this body style, I think it messes up the look of the car from a profile view. I'm not a big fan of when they went to the vents, scoops, spoilers and plastic bumper look of the 78-82 models. Just too much going on for me. Here's a good example:

I rolled up on a guy at a convenience store and he had a white Z-28 of that year and it looked bad ***! He'd totally restored it. It may not be as fast as we all like, but it still brings back good memories and isn't that a HUGE part of why a lot of us like older cars.

The cars of the muscle car era are slugs compared to a lot of BASE model cars that are out now. They had the power, but they couldn't get it all on the pavement. The manufacturers of old told a lot of lies, that's just fact. So did a lot of owners back then.
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