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Old 10-07-2006, 09:29 PM
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90s SBC Power Steering Pump pulley Removal Help

I need some 1990s SBC serpentine belt Power Steering Pump pulley Removal Help.

I need to remove the ps pulley from the ps pump to get to the bolts out from behind the ps pulley to remove the ps pump/reservoir. (theres the serpentine belt bracket in between the pulley & pump/reservoir) theres a allen in center of the ps pulley, but how do I hold pulley when its in the vehicle ? is there a tool to hold the collar around allen ? is the allen bolt in center of ps pulley reg threads or left hand threads ?

I did get the complete serpentine belt brackets with a/c pump and idler pulleys on passengers side off and I got the alt & ps pump & serpentine belt bracket off the drivers side. but theres gota be a easier way to remove the power steering pump, so I can remove the serpentine belt bracket. looks like if I could get ps pump pulley off so I can remove the bolts from behind the ps pulley to get the ps pump & reservoir off with out bending the pulley so a bent pulley don't eat the belt when I'm done. I had a ***** of a time removing the ps pump to remove the serpentine belt bracket. and motor is hanging on engine stand.


I'm striping the motor to paint it b4 installing it in the Suburban. but how would a guy replace a ps pump with the motor in suburban ? the ps pulley would need to be remved to replace the ps pump in vehicle, but how do you remove the ps pulley ?

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Old 10-07-2006, 10:13 PM
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Snapon makes the best power steering pump pulley removal and installation tools from what I have seen...

Its a tool designed to fit over the groove in the pulley snout and has a fine thread pressing bolt that pushes against the pump shaft while the "hood" so to speak pulls snout of the pulley off... The installation tool does thread into the pump shaft and a larger outer nut with a bearing draws the pulley back onto the pump shaft...

Here is one
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so that pulley is pressed on and the allen in the center is not a bolt ? or you have to hold pulley and remove allen and use puller to pull pulley ? I'm Confused.........









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Old 10-08-2006, 12:20 AM
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It`s pressed on. Did this countless times on past projects. If you just want a puller to use and not keep, you can rent one for around $40 from your local parts store.
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Its called a Power Steering Pully, its very thin but the metal is thick an heavy. The Allen head has threads below it and you won't use that part to do anything. however a heavy vise is needed to put the pully back on after you remove the pump assy from the revesoir, When you buy the pump, it will come with the correct screw, nut and washer to put the pump pully back on...but you need the Heavy Vise to hold it on as it will slip and mess you up without it. A Vise that is a Heavy Duty Rated will work great but one that will hold the pump without slipping is better. make sure you grease the shaft pully to help align the pully back on. The pump has a large rubber seal ring around it, and make sure to put all new rubber seal rings on all fitting, prime pump with steering fluid after assy and install and check for leaks, be careful not to strip any threads and don't use plumbers tefon tape anywhere.
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You would not use the Allen wrench to do anything, its there just to hold the pump during the manufacturing process. You will use the steering pump pully to remove the pully from the pump revesior only. When you buy the pump, it has all the instructions and tool you will need to assemble it again.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:38 AM
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Mustangsaly... The allen head is just the end of the shaft and the threads are up inside just beyond the allen area... I`m not exactly sure as to why they put the allen socket in the end, maybe its just part of the tooling...? The tool I linked on ebay has a flat end with a centering tip, it just butts up against the end of the shaft with the allen being the centering counter area... The installation tool does however thread into the shaft while the large nut w/bearing draws the pulley back onto the pump shaft... If you really need pic`s of how to use these LMK and I`ll break out my tools and take pic`s to show you...?
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bumpstick,

as much as I like Snap On a $100 is a lot for something I will use 6 Xs

I think I need a puller/installer

ok thanks, but the tool bumpstick posted pulls and installs the ps pulley ? I need to just buy one. cause it will be needed to pull ps pulley to remove the ps pump so I can get the the bolts to ps pump/resivor & remove/pull the serpentine belt accessory bracket off the motor in the suburban B4 pulling motor, plus putting the ps pump & ps pulley back on the serpentine belt bracket with motor in suburban (looks to me like installing a ps pump in a vehicle the vice pulley install would still make it hard, cause the serpentine belt bracket is in between the ps pump/resivor & pulley, and the ps reservoir & pump has bolts behind ps pulley that would be hard to get out with motor in vehicle) now cause being the tight *** I am I looked up other pullers like these, whats my best cheap priced puller/installer ? I don't mind spendin $50 but if the $28 one will work for my garage build I'm all for it.


the 1st one looked the best, the 2nd one is a mac but has 16bids the 1st one is a buy it now

this one pulls and installs pulley ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alter...QQcmdZViewItem

this one pulls and installs pulley ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAC-T...QQcmdZViewItem


this mac pulls and installs pulley ? buy it now $45



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAC-T...QQcmdZViewItem






this one pulls but not installs pulley ?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-P...QQcmdZViewItem

this one pulls but not installs pulley ?
[img]http://i10.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/8b/1e/5b_1.JPG[img]
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap-...QQcmdZViewItem

this one pulls and installs pulley ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PULLE...QQcmdZViewItem





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Mustangsaly... I understand on the price but I use that tool on a reg basis so it is the preferred one to me... But for you if your only using it from time to time like once a year or less...? Then the last one would be your best option... $14 plus shipping it does do both remove and install...
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Bumpstick,

I understand the pulley pulling part but, how does the press on pulley part work ? theres threads in the allen hole to pull the pulley in the shaft ?

cause I see pullers & installers


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Found this it kinda tells all





Here you see the basic tool
as it would be used for most
applications.

The jackscrew has been
lubricated with petroleum
jelly and threaded into the
puller body.

The o-ring on the button
would then be lubricated and
inserted into the jackscrew.
The tool is then ready to use.


Today, I am working on a GM
3.1L V6 in a Camaro. For this
application, I need to use an
adapter instead of the button.
The instructions indicate
when and which adapter to
use.

Each adapter has an o-ring,
just like the button.
Petroleum jelly will help
prevent damage, but don't
worry if you do damage the
o-ring, its only function is to
create enough resistance so
that the adapter or button
won't fall out before you get
the tool on the pump.

Now, just slide the assembled
tool into the hole in the pump
shaft.

The adapter should bottom in
the pump shaft hole just as
the puller body contacts the
front of the shaft.

If the adapter length and hole
depth do not match, you have
the wrong adapter.






Slide the two jaws into
position. Note that the flange
is not the same size on both
sides of the jaw. It must be a
snug fit over the hub of the
pulley, but the two halves
must meet.



You will then slide the jaw
sleeve over the jaws to hold
them in place.

Using a 1" wrench, hold the
puller body while turning the
jackscrew with a 1/2" wrench
or ratchet to remove the
pully.





You will be amazed at just
how easy this tool makes this
job.
With the new pump installed,
remove the puller adapter
from the tool and replace it
with the correct installation
adapter. Don't forget to
tighten the adapter. Again,
refer to the illustrations in the
booklet.


Next slide the bearing
included in the kit over the
adapter and then the thrust
washer. Thread the installer
screw into the pump shaft
until it bottoms. Hold the
jackscrew and turn the pump
body by hand until the thrust
washer is against the pump
shaft.


Hold the jackscrew with a 1/2"
wrench and turn the pump
body with a 1" wrench to
press the pully onto the new
pump
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power steering pully removel

Harbor Freight has an P/S Pulley remover/installer PN: 40749OVGA for $19.99 plus shipping Should there be one by you stop in.

It does the job. I have one, used it twice in 6 years. for that amount of use I could not justify Snap-On. russ
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Harbor Freight has an P/S Pulley remover/installer PN: 40749OVGA for $19.99 plus shipping Should there be one by you stop in.

It does the job. I have one, used it twice in 6 years. for that amount of use I could not justify Snap-On. russ


russlaferrera,

I agree I like tools and snap on mac matco & craftsman is my favorite, I have mostly name brand tools. (being a electrician I buy good name brand tools I use everyday to make a living) but with so many projects going I'm getting a little less picky on specialty tools that will be used 5 Xs. now if it was a new torq wrench I would go the other way. no HF near me.

I went with this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

http://fezziwigsltd.com/ilustrations...3997illus.html



I did learn something about these pulleys pullers ect.

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Everyone




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