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Old 10-26-2009, 06:46 PM
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96 Windstar windows/ABS/park brake diagram

Any body got some wiring diagrams of the power windows in my 96 Windstar??
Neither one of the windows has power to the switch.

Also while trying to figure this out---I think I may have toasted the ABS box because now the ABS and the BRAKE lights will not go off on the dash.
(these were fine this morning)

One window motor has died----and some time ago, when the passenger window quit working, I was getting 12vdc to the both of the switches.

Since then (about a month) the driver window went south as well.
Now, I have no voltage to any of the switches (window), the fuses are good, and the relay under the dash marked for the window does not have a live wire in it----key on or off.

The driver side motor is fine----passenger side is dead (have new motor/regulator).

Just cannot figure out why there is no power to the switches.

A schematic would be great for helping me locate the open or burned wires in the harness.

Anyone have one, or know where I can get one pretty quick??

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Here is wiring diagram if image uploads ok. Sometimes wires break at the door jamb were the wires go thru the rubber boot between door and jamb.
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Sorry here is more of the diagram and also the abs diagram
hope this helps
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This should help.
Wish I could get it to print out bigger----over 40 eyesight sucks
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Got a larger copy made--- .

Now-----ANYBODY know where this silly
'solid state generic electronic module'

is located????

What happened to the good ol' days when windows were powered only by a single feed and not thru every relay in the car???
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the gem module should not keep the window from working. it only controls the one touch down function. the fact that you have no power at the switch is probably why the window doesn't work. light blue w/ black stripe wire should have 12 volts and 2 black wires should be grounded at the switch. I am pretty sure the gem is to the left of the radio on windstars but as I said it should not keep window from working
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I was thinking it would not affect the windows---however---I'm now wondering if it has something to do with the ABS & BRAKE lamps lighting up and not going off after the car is started. Not sure, have not got that far in the diagram yet.
I did find that I have an open conductor between the "Delayed Accessory Relay" & the fuse Box.

From the fuses to the switches---the wiring seems to be okay (shows continuity). The 'One Touch DOWN Relay' will not energize, and that is powered by wire 333, the wire that does not seem to have continuity.

I will have the car all day tomorrow and will be looking into a burnt or broken wire inside the harness in the morning. With any luck at all, it may be a harness that I can easily change out (not holdin' my breath tho).

Everything from the fuse to the window switches seems okay-----now just gotta get power to the fuses.

I appreciate your help, Mr 67 For some reason Ford schematics always give me grief----GM , not so much, and I spend many hours looking at German Equipment drawings---almost have to be taught to comprehend these.
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Gem and abs are not related circuits one should not effect the other. the usual cause for abs and brake lamp on is low brake fluid level. circuit 333 should have 12 volts with key on. if not check 60 amp fuse J in engine compartment fuse box. if ok check delayed accessory relay pin 87 for 12 volts.if ok its posible acc delay relay is bad. does instrument panel fuse box fuse 34 (30 amp) have power with key on?
I have highlighted the power path for the circuit, red before the switch and orange after the switch. If you think this circuit is complicated you should see them on todays cars.
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yep---got to thinking about the ABS/BRAKE lamp last night.
Realized the car still has the original pads 101k miles---will look into that here in a few minutes.

the 60 amp fuse is good, and I do have power to the contacts on the delayed acc relay.

No power to the fuses 34 & 40----definite open circuit between the DAR contacts and the fuse buss.

Slept late today and am now just getting to it

One thing I have not yet checked is the possibility of a short to ground in that wire.

Oh well---back outside before it starts raining again.

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Have no idea whatsoever as to what just happened.
Tried to get the fusebox out to examine the wiring, and to trace the trouble wire (tug-tug-wiggle & move), did some more continuity checking and voltage checking, put all the relays back, and VIOLA.

NOW i HAVE POWER TO THE SWITCHES.

Dunno what I did, and this makes me nervous as I think there is an "iffy" connection in the fusebox. And this box is no easy swap like the later cars are.

Anyway---driver window is working just fine---express down works too.
After replacing the motor in the passenger door, that window is working just fine from both switches.

But before I can let her have her back, I need to replace the rear guide on the passenger door. The welds holding it to the bracket bolted to the door have failed and the guide was laying in the bottom of the door.

I will also put some new pads on the front, and that should raise the fluid level enough to turn off the lamps (how the hell does Ford expect you to check brake fluid level on these things---the resevoir is way under the cowl and can barely be seen, let alone filled ).

The real test will be when I put the fusebox back up and put the dash back together, but I think I will get some replacement relays before I do that, just to be on the safe side.

More updates after the car is reassembled and ready to turn back over to "HER".
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