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ABS on the track will probably never be a big item... if youve got good brakes and you a somewheat talented driver you will probably do better than an ABS car... especially on clean track conditions. In fact we particpated in a shootout here not long ago and what I can tell you is that our 66 Chevelle stopped 10 ft shorter than a track prepped Z06 with sticky tires.

Where ABS will save your *** is when you have variable road conditions. Wet, Ice ect... in a daily driving / touring scenario

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My chevelle is a street car that my wife drives so I want it to be as safe as possible for her.
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I would not wish to enter into a discussion of if a retro fit of ABS is a good idea or not but one in how one might go about it if one wants to. i think myself fitting the rotors and sensors from a later GM product and getting the ECU for that may work. one may need to fiddle with the programming to get the brake balance correct.

I have tried most all of it and now do what is known to work..
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Originally Posted by KMatch
My experience came straight from GM from training over the years required in my line of work. Good enough for me, plus personal experience with both as I can match the results. Maybe others don't have the reflexes and need help? I can't speak for everybody. It really doesn't matter to me if you're convinced or not as my stuff stops and I don't feel the need to dig deeper to prove anything - it's simply information.

As an add-on, it only takes about 10 seconds to find http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...er-risk-by-51/ . Naturally, you can find anything to counter anything on the net, but these results back up my personal training in 30 years of experience. ABS might help someone less capable (granny and the general public tend to fit this) but most serious racers have better real world feedback than a computer. Again, take it or leave it - it makes NO difference to me.

If you are happy with that single inconclusive article and your experiences - then I'm happy too!! I'll just disagree with you as part of the general public as most people are not serious racers nor was that part of the premise for the discussion.

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Originally Posted by akorcovelos
That hot rod article is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

As for abs vs no abs, that's for another thread.
True, not what you asked, but... I'm all for staying on topic yet at the same time, I'm all for keeping someone from wasting too much time/money.

One thing to make a note of is today's ABS is MUCH more precise than a few years back. Whatever "kit" you find make sure it's up to the task you're asking of it. Will you be able to adjust anything? It may be too sensitive - it may use a smoke detector to engage! On mid 90s GM trucks I remember them having to be reprogrammed for simply putting on larger tires or else they went into useless mode. Adjustability needs to be built in for installing this on a car that doesn't speak the language. Having a sensor watch wheel speed is only part of the package - it must also know when to re-engage the brakes and this could be a problem without programming for a specific weight bias.
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Very true, which is why I figured a mid to late 90's impala would be the best candidate given vehicle weight and brake bias. I still have lots of research to do which may change my donor car choice, but that article basically said what I was already thinking.

I don't want full stability control, just basic abs to keep the wheels from locking in bad driving conditions.
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