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Old 05-02-2004, 05:28 AM
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Poncho...that car needs to be sitting in MY garage. You can always change your username. LOL!!

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Old 05-02-2004, 05:33 PM
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Ok, one last question. This isnt one of ae vs. bccc. I was wondering since milo said that the metalic had to be cleared on the AU could the AU without metalic be cleared for a cheaper bc.cc paintjob? Also assuming that the two paints are compatiable, would that give me a wonderful shine, seeing how the AU is a single stage made to shine and then with cc on top of that.....Comments?
For the painters who so patiently and continously answered my questions, say a kid came into your shop and asked what he could do to cut off a little of the cost is there anything you would tell them to do that isnt terrbily involved and isnt going to affect the overall finished product. If not is there anything you would tell them to do at all to help save? Thanks
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Acrylic urethane does not have to be cleared no matter if it is a solid or metallic. If it is not cleared and its metallic, it can't really be wetsanded and buffed out afterwards to get rid of any dirt specks or anything in the paint or it will get messed up. Either of them can be cleared, but I don't think it will save you a bunch of money doing it that way compared to just using basecoat clearcoat. You can compare prices. As far as what you can do to save money depends on your abilities. You could probably sand down the paint which isn't that difficult, mainly time consuming. Also you can probably take off parts that you don't want to get painted and possibly tape up the car. With a little practice, maybe do any small body repairs and priming if you have the tools. If you do take off things, if you keep stuff together, even using some masking tape to attatch the screws and bolts to the part it goes with, it can help save time when it comes to put it back together.
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Old 05-02-2004, 10:31 PM
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However, some ppl will tell you 95% of a great long lasting paint job comes from great prep work. How good can you prep?
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:24 AM
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I painted my own interior and the only places that are messed up are the places where i knew i should have taken more time. But overall i am very pleased with it. My glovebox started with brush on primer (what a mistake that was) Then i sprayed it with the gun and i just didnt sand it well enough so it was a few waves and one spot i held up paper to avoid sprying my ignition (I was reparing a scratch) and it was on top of clear and you can see the line if you know it is there. Other than than i am really pleased with it. I should have done a little bondoing but didnt. That affects the overall apperance but not the paint. When you say sand the paint, do you mean just roughing up the entire old coat with like 60 grit to have a good adhering surface for primer? I dont know if anyone knows and I am sure it depends on my painter, but take a stab in the dark anyone if you would, if I had it all roughed out and taped to where I pulled the truck in the bay and took the bed off the frame and the front clip off and taped up the engine and the like, what do you think I could save off the paint? I considered doing all the priming myself but I dont really want to mess with anything that will possibly affect the paint...Thanks guys
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Use 320 grit, just take the gloss off. You don't need primer except to fill and level repaired places and chips etc. Then a full coat of sealer.

What you save depends on the painter?

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ok last question...Granted that obviously bc.cc is the supreme of paints. Assuming that bc.cc is a 10 on a scale of 1-10 for overall shine and durablity and the rest of that jazz. What would that place Acrylic Urethane not AE? After that I am done thanks for all your input and sorry i was so tunnel-visioned!

I guess it just goes to show I should expect to pay more for quality....
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Old 05-03-2004, 10:27 PM
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which cld very well be a 10 in UR book! And you thought this wld be easy didnt ya!
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Old 05-04-2004, 07:28 AM
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well thanks guys i know i was probally a pain in the .... to deal with but i appreciate it. Sorry i was so persistant on making somthing that wasnt there (AE). Now I feel i can go in and talk to my painter with some education and not let him tell me ae is the best paint ever made and bc.cc sucks. Thanks very much you guys quite possibly saved my truck from crappy paint for the next 6 years!!! In about 2 months i will have pictures posted of it painted. I will start up a forum and post a picture in here and let you guys all know if I went with au or bc.cc. I think i have the money for bc.cc espically with grandparents coming down for graudation! Thanks again
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Old 06-04-2004, 02:15 AM
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Here's one that was painted with CLV straight on bondo and fiberglass (in a rush for raceday) with no primer or sealer Friday and was getting the checkered flag at Sears Point Raceway Saturday
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:40 PM
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I decided to go bc.cc if anybody was wondering what I choose. I am going to shoot the paint myself as well. I just bought all the equipment and am going to be using the PPG Omni line. The color is a dark blue with a metalic flake and pearl in the paint, it is a 2001 saab color. THanks for all the advice and sorry I was so difficult.... If anyone knows any life saving tips i sure would appreciate them. I am going to practice on some spare wheel wells and leftover body panels. Thanks again
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don,t use omni if you want ppg use dbc or global.on a half ton truck 2 quarts will be enough
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:17 PM
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Alvin, you should check the dates on the thread you are posting on. That car was probably painted last July,,

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