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Old 02-03-2005, 10:32 AM
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Adding shadows to my flames

I'm thinking ahead to when I paint the body for my t-bucket. I want to carry through the same flame treatment I did on the frame, but I think my flames need some shadow effects to make them more interesting and professional looking. Are the special techniques for adding shadows? Or do I just pick up an air brush and some black paint and go to it? (yea, right) Do I use black or some variation or is it a darker base color? Is the paint thinned out a lot or is just a regular mix in the air brush ok?

Just something I'm thinking about, but any help would be appreciated.

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Old 02-03-2005, 05:17 PM
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you want to use an over reduced black. do a couple test areas before starting. you dont want the black so opaque that the shadows look straight up black but you dont want it too transparent either where they are hard too see. shadowing on top of light metallics like silver is tricky too because you will think you have them dark enough but then you clear and they are alot lighter than you thought so be sure to test on the same color as your background. flames aren't to difficult to shadow. only thing that can be tricky and this goes for any graphic that comes to a point, is the end of the flame. if the shadow is going to look realistic it needs to be smooth, not jittery and at the end it needs to come to a tapered point just like the flame does. another tip, as you come to the end of the flame, bring the shadow away from the edge of the flame tip. this gives more depth. i attached a pic of a harley tank i painted recently. take notice of the shadows. these are a little darker than i usually like to go. its not really necessary for them to be quite so dark to get a good effect.
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Old 02-03-2005, 06:02 PM
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Thanks, that just what I was looking for. I've never air brushed before, but I'm willing to try. In fact, I've never built a car before, so that's ok.
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Old 02-03-2005, 06:11 PM
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you gotta start somewhere right? no one showed me how to paint or use an airbrush either. one day i just picked up a spray gun and gave it a try. everything else i picked up along the way. have fun!!!
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You can pick up a decent siphon air brush at Harbor Freight for like $20.00 that is really a nice piece for the cash. This is a "pencil" type,not the Press & Spray like is usually advertised. Buy 2 and you'll have extra bottles and another brush in case you drop your's.Which you will.LOL...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=1500

I use one still and it does almost as good as my Iwatta.

It's takes LOT'S of practice to get your fades right like on the flame tips. And I still have trouble with those dagger's so get you one and get to spraying.

I picked up some enamel Nasson primary colors in pint's with reducer for practicing with.Cheap price and a decent paint.
You will usually reduce it 1:1 and adjust up or down for different colors as the pigment amount will dictate this. White is usually the hardest to work with as it has an extreme amount of pigment and is bad about spitting and clogging the tip.

I have an old Country Crock butter tub that I keep my used thinner in to pre wash the bottles and another that I keep clean thinner in to final rinse with. That keep's the thinner use way down.
May not be EPA approved but it works for me.

I got into this by accident myself. I never thought I would be painting cars and such at 48. I did one for a friend just for kick's and it just kinda went from there.

I looked at your journal and you have a nice ride going on.
As for the clear run's.Try this. Don't go back over the area you just cleared due to "Not laying enough" in your mind.Just catch it next coat. I created more run's by doing that than anything else when I first started. Not that this is your problem but just some advice.

Go to Dixieart.com and check out some video's by Craig Fraiser.
I went to one of his seminars and the guy's really great and got some cool "How To" vid's.
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Thanks for the tips. I will look into the Harbor Frieght, a new one just opened by me.

Thanks for the nice words about my car too. The paint has been the most difficult, but also the most satifying.
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