Adding windows where there were none .. flush fit - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Body - Exterior
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Adding windows where there were none .. flush fit

So like a lot of you I have a quick build that turned into a long build. I have a 69 Chev panel truck that is all finished except for assembly.

When I started this project I had zero grand kids, now I have four =) A panel truck would not be fun for the kids even if I put seats back there considering there are no side windows.

So Ive been thinking about cutting open the sides and figuring out a way to flush mount one long side window on each side. I was thinking maybe having some channel bent to the shape I wanted the windows, and maybe using panel bonding glue to put it in (Truck is painted and Im trying to avoid as much touch up painting as possible.

Or possibly cutting out the opening and using some sort of flange tool to go around the edges to make a place to set the glass in. But I dont know if there is such a tool.

Getting rid of the panel and using a burb is out of the question. But I am open to any other ideas to add some side glass if you have them.

Thanks for any thoughts.

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:45 AM
boatbob2
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: north florida
Age: 76
Posts: 1,374
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 6
Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts
Panel flange tool,,

Hi,EASTWOOD sells a panel flanging tool,it looks like a pair of pliers,cost ABOUT $30.00,Flange is ABOUT 1/2 in long??? and ABOUT 1/8 inch deep...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:47 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ill check out Eastwoods site, thanks.

I just checked it out. It would be exactly what I need except it needs to make the channel deeper ( so glass would sit flush) It only sets the channel to sheet metal thickness....Thanks again though. Now Im going to be stuck on Eastwoods site checking out all the other good stuff lol
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:51 AM
dinger's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Health and safety in the shop or garage
Last journal entry: 36 Ford painting
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Visalia, Ca.
Age: 61
Posts: 2,711
Wiki Edits: 1

Thanks: 102
Thanked 110 Times in 76 Posts
IMO, you're screwing up a nice truck, doing an install that might not be safe in a collision, and just won't look right. Just my opinion, not trying to be a wise guy.
__________________
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:53 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinger View Post
IMO, you're screwing up a nice truck, doing an install that might not be safe in a collision, and just won't look right. Just my opinion, not trying to be a wise guy.
I would be leaving internal bracing, only losing the thin outter skin. The panel truck is black and the window would be limo tint black.

Believe me I do understand where you are coming from. Im still not positive I want to do this. Just looking for ideas for now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 11:16 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Miami
Posts: 179
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 15
Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts
Im assuming the best way to do this would be to find a vehicle with a similar shape and glass size then cut out the metal and weld it in to your vehicle so you dont have to have a custom glass for it made and of it ever cracks its easier to get a replacement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 11:23 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by monster76 View Post
Im assuming the best way to do this would be to find a vehicle with a similar shape and glass size then cut out the metal and weld it in to your vehicle so you dont have to have a custom glass for it made and of it ever cracks its easier to get a replacement
Ive been looking at that option too. I held up burb side glass from the same year, but it just doesnt look right. Im going to have to have a piece cut to comform to the shape I want.

I also want to avoid a bunch of welding if possible ... Here is a shot of it when it was in paint and body ... Its been home for three years lol. Yeah Im slow =)
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Almost-finished-body-2.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	66.1 KB
ID:	67517  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 12:04 PM
swvalcon's Avatar
Member
 

Last journal entry: rust on lt body shell
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: mn
Age: 64
Posts: 1,016
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
If your looking for a cheap quick fix look at some side windows for a conversion van. Not that much money and fairly easy to install.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 12:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by swvalcon View Post
If your looking for a cheap quick fix look at some side windows for a conversion van. Not that much money and fairly easy to install.
Yeah those would be easy for sure. But I'm really looking for a close to seamless look. Very dark glass, flush fit, on a black body.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 02:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Try side windows from a Chevy van.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 04:20 PM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,902
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 274 Times in 219 Posts
Put a DVD player in the back, that will keep the little buggers happy......

I wonder if those windows that they used to install in conversion vans would work for you, if you could find the right size/shape?
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2012, 10:13 PM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,231
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,353
Thanked 1,191 Times in 1,050 Posts
This is the only way I can imagine you could do this without paint. Get a window and make a channel that would go around the window. Cut a hole in the body the same size as the channel, we are talking PERFECTLY cut it out and grind it out to the perfect point. Glue the channel to the back side of the metal with structural bonding adhesive. (YES it would be strong enough) And then set the glass on urethane in the channel and use a moulding like on an 80's S-10 Chevy or Camaro of the vintage. The moulding simply tucks into the channel between the glass and the channel sealing over the gap between the glass and the channel.

You may be able to pull this off without damaging the paint.

Brian
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0468.JPG
Views:	70
Size:	1.04 MB
ID:	67544  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 08-20-2012, 09:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARTINSR View Post
This is the only way I can imagine you could do this without paint. Get a window and make a channel that would go around the window. Cut a hole in the body the same size as the channel, we are talking PERFECTLY cut it out and grind it out to the perfect point. Glue the channel to the back side of the metal with structural bonding adhesive. (YES it would be strong enough) And then set the glass on urethane in the channel and use a moulding like on an 80's S-10 Chevy or Camaro of the vintage. The moulding simply tucks into the channel between the glass and the channel sealing over the gap between the glass and the channel.

You may be able to pull this off without damaging the paint.

Brian

This was my original idea on doing this. Seemed like the best way ... just need to figure out how to make the channel and get her done =)

BTW, I noticed a bunch of your posts on this site. Glad to see you are still around. Seems like I used to see a bunch of your tutorials over on 67-72chevytrucks.com

Thanks for your insights here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 08-20-2012, 09:53 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,231
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,353
Thanked 1,191 Times in 1,050 Posts
You would have the channel bent up in three or four foot lengths (if you don't have the equipment to bend it). Then using a shrinker/stretcher bend it around the window perfectly using the window as your pattern.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 08-20-2012, 12:16 PM
ogre's Avatar
the 'Duracell Project'
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Motown
Posts: 1,434
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 117 Times in 102 Posts
i thought the panels had the same structure inside as the suburbans
if that's the case try to get suburban windows and trim to fit in there
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Body - Exterior posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For God's sake it is FIT, FIT, not "Fitment" when you are talking about panel fit. MARTINSR Off-Topic 52 09-08-2009 08:52 AM
Flush mount windows EastCoastSBC Body - Exterior 2 06-24-2007 09:26 AM
flush keith denson Introduce Yourself 1 07-11-2005 04:35 PM
1929 model a two door sedan - Flush Fit Doors jastreitz Body - Exterior 0 04-29-2003 11:39 AM
flush mount windows CARGUY Body - Exterior 2 04-15-2003 09:28 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.