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View Poll Results: What type of primer gun to buy for starting my career
Buy a namebrand like Sata, Iwata, DeVilbiss, Sharpe, Optima and etc. 7 63.64%
Its just primer buy something cheap on ebay or harbor freight 4 36.36%
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Advice on paint gun for work

Hello everyone. I am going to be a WyoTech graduate this December and need to start buying my tools. Problem is the school doesn't help us out much with making the right decisions. The school is sponsored by many companies mainly Snap-On. So I am asking what you guys think of this...

Paint Guns: I am looking into getting 2 of the guns below not sure which 2 exactly yet. I love all 3 of them...

SataJet RP
Iwata LPH-400LV
DeVilbiss GTi

Now the 2 above will be used for base and clears. Now my main problem is what to do about a primer gun. Is it worth it to use the school discount for a high end primer gun like a Sata or the DeVilbiss Finishline with the ability to switch nozzle sizes easily. Or should I go with something like a replica from ebay? Remember this is going to be my profession but I must start out as a prepper first so I will be doing a lot of priming. At school I never noticed much of a difference between any of the big name primer guns but we didn't have any cheap ones to try like the ones below...

Ebay W400 ($48)
Feed Type: Gravity
Nozzle Size: 1.5 mm
Op. Pressure: 12 - 60 PSI
Pattern Width: 3-10 in.
Air Consumption: 4.2 - 7.1 CFM
Cup Type: Plastic
Cup Capacity: 600cc
Link to the ebay auction for this gun




Ebay HiFinish II HVLP ($38)
Feed Type: Gravity
Nozzle Size: 1.4 mm
Op. Pressure: 12 - 60 PSI
Pattern Width: 3-8 in.
Air Consumption: 4.2 - 7.1 CFM
Cup Type: Metal
Cup Capacity: 1000cc
Link to HiFinish II Auction




eBay Accuspray ($70)
Option of 1.5mm or 1.8mm tip
Link for the accuspray auction


Any help you guys could give me is much appreciated. Thanks in advance and im sorry if this is like a lot of the other posts about guns but I just wasnt sure since this gun will be used as part of my career.

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i have a sharpe planinum as my paint gun, and ive always used disposable type guns for primer

at the shop i worked at me used ppg epoxy primer .... i kid you not primer built up on the BOTTOM inside of the cup .... just from having primer in the cup, not exposed to air, it built up ... so u can imagine how much it built up on the outside of the aircap

image how muh primer builds up inside the gun when the boss demands you to do something b4 your gunis clean ... like some pissy customer that needs an estimate or when someone calls from home w/ an emergency ... you gotta be able to throw the gun away

thats my view at least ..... not everyones gonna agree

oh yea, my sharpe is for sale if your interested, i dont work at a shop anymore
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I suggest you look at the "Astro" HVLP guns.
They are a great gun for the low cost, $78.50.
They are one of the import copies but a little higher quality than
the others. They have different tips available too.
Here's a link to one of the places you can find it.

http://www.spraygunworld.com/products/Astro/index.htm

I'd also recommend you get a DeVilbiss liner kit (DEV-OMX70K48)
system for whatever gun you get.
It makes clean-up so much easier and you can spray upside
down with it and you can shake the paint to keep it mixed.
They're about #20.00 They're also on EBay

http://search.cartserver.com/search/...ywords=bag+kit
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I'm with jc & low.
A cheap throw away primer gun with the "bag" system makes clean up REAL quick.
As for your PAINT gun, I'm SOLD on the LPH-400. BEST gun PERIOD.
You can use the "bag" with the Iwata too,except you'll have to get a different cup as NONE of the adapters will fit the metal one,not that you can't "modify" an adpt. to fit,Don't know about their plastic cup as I got the metal one with mine.I had an old plastic cup from a knock off gun I swap on when I use the bag on it.
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Hi, I use a Sharpe Finex FX300 1.8 to lay primer with good results.

The gun is pretty low cost, but the advantage is that you can get replacement parts for it.

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/Sharpe/sharpe.html

You could spend the same amount of money on a el-chepo but try get parts
for it and you may run into problems.

BTW, the gun is easy to clean and service if needed.

Good luck !

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I use the ebay replica iwata as a primer gun now.. the gun sprays pretty thick primers well. i use spi turbo primer surfacer which is thick and it sprays good and nice and smooth. i used to use an astro 1.7 for this and it wouldnt lay out bumpy and it would take a littler longer to block sand.

I dont like my real iwata lph400lv for base coat it doenst spray metalics well. i think they have an lph400lvb which works better for bases but sucks for clear. i woulda go with the sata rp for base and clear or a sata 2000 works really well too.

Any gun will last if u take care of it and clean it well and soon after ur done spraying. a couple places i worked people had sata primer guns and have had them for years.. u cant be lazy when it comes to paint gun care.
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IF Iwata would make the LVB air cap available,then we could have the best of both worlds.
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Thanks for the info right now guys I appreciate it greatly. Looks like I will be buying something cheaper for my primer. Maybe not an ebay gun for sure but some of the Astro and Sharpe guns you were talking about don't cost that much more exactly.

Keep the great info coming though guys. Thanks
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I don't have an expensive primer gun. I bought a cheapo Husky HVLP from Lowes, when I needed one in a hurry. It turned out to have a 1.4 tip, and would spray and leave a rough finish. Since it was just something that I was going to block out it was fine. The rest of the time, the preppers were going to sand it, so that didn't matter to me. I have since purchased a relatively cheap ATD (I think) with a 2.0. That one sprays thick primer real well, and can be adjusted down for thinner stuff.

I would not put alot fo money onto a primer gun. Primer will build up in them real quick in a shop that is too busy for you to take alot of time for cleaning it. I personally would wait until I got into a shop and see what everyone else it using. It may depend on the primer.
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i'd go with a cheapo also... i used the astro's they work great.. used the finishline.. liked that also.. I think i paid 125 for the finish line... thing i like about that is that it came with two tips for diferent primers which was nice..
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hi my dear,

i am just a new member here and this is my first post.
i am a boats custom painter

infact i am using sata rp digital 2 with 1.4 nozzle and would like to say
that I am so happy with my above gun specially for clear coat.

iwata lbh400lv is for clear coat and lbh400lvb is for base coat
I never tried iwata but i only read allot about them they are also
good guns.

as for the priver i use a cheap spray gun but (hvlp spray gun).

good luck

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One thing for sure< I love my W-400... Sprays better than anything in the gun cabinet... Wish that werent the case, since I have soo much money in guns, but it is the truth.. I dont know how it would hold up to a production shop use everyday, but the Sata and Iwata are top name brands to buy... Some like the Delv,, I dont think they are all that hot... it is matter of opinions for allot of people.... I have a GTI my wife was talked into buying for me, it is sworn by with some painters... I think it was almost 400 dollars of waste.... Kinda like asking what paint is better, PPG or Dupont.... depends on the person and how they do things etc...
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cheap gun for primer. i have the lph400lv for clear and the extra lvb cap for metalics. i also bought the lph100. works great for color and custom work. i dont believe you can beat the iwata's for quality and performance.
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You can't go wrong with the Accuspray Performax primer gun, I've used it with
various 2K primer surfacers and it sprays them really good, I have also used it
with FeatherFill G2 polyester primer with good results as well, had to up the
pressure with that one though to get it to spray better, it goes around 70 bucks
on ebay which isn't so bad for a primer gun.

Paying closer attention to the gun it looks as if it was a copy of the SATA
KLC primer gun, kinda weird for Accuspray to come out with a knock off don't
you guys think?
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I was also thinkin it looked like a SATA primer gun.
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