[Oliphant]

Concerning the SATA vs the DeVilbiss on the new reduced pressure gravity feeds.

I am very interested in the reduced pressure guns. I am going to purchase one of these immediately, either the SATA SAT92xxx series or the DeVilbiss GFG670. Right now the Sata can be had for within a hundred bucks of the DeVilbiss but WOW the difference on tips! (140 bucks per tip vs 34 bucks per tip).

Are you saying the DeVilbiss actually sprays BETTER?

If not, I am willing to go the difference for the SATA since I take care of my tools and will have it for many years. Also, the Sata has the built in digital inlet pressure guage, quite nice.

Has anyone actually tried both of these guns? If not what was your feedback on these?

One more thing... In one or more ads for the DeVilbiss it is mentioned that spraying "upside down" is possible with the included cup liners. (ie. not sure if this ability to spray upside down is DUE to a special cup liner or if the reference is simply included together in the sentence)

-Jeff O

[BarryK]

Originally posted by Oliphant
Concerning the SATA vs the DeVilbiss on the new reduced pressure gravity feeds.
I am very interested in the reduced pressure guns. I am going to purchase one of these immediately, either the SATA SAT92xxx series or the DeVilbiss GFG670. Right now the Sata can be had for within a hundred bucks of the DeVilbiss but WOW the difference on tips! (140 bucks per tip vs 34 bucks per tip).


One more thing... In one or more ads for the DeVilbiss it is mentioned that spraying "upside down" is possible with the included cup liners. (ie. not sure if this ability to spray upside down is DUE to a special cup liner or if the reference is simply included together in the sentence)

-Jeff O

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You don't want either gun. The best gun I have seen come along in years is the Sata RP. I have never as in the last two years since
new seen a gun in so many body shops so fast. Your in Atlanta just swing by about 10 nice body shops and ask painters about it.
RE: Painting upside down -- any gun using the 3m system can.

Keep the Devilbiss as a primer gun or a cut in gun.

[Oliphant]

Originally posted by BarryK
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You don't want either gun. The best gun I have seen come along in years is the Sata RP. I have never as in the last two years since
new seen a gun in so many body shops so fast. Your in Atlanta just swing by about 10 nice body shops and ask painters about it.
RE: Painting upside down -- any gun using the 3m system can.

Keep the Devilbiss as a primer gun or a cut in gun.

I do not understand the first part of your response "You don't want either gun". Can I interpret this as meaning "Buy the Sata and don't consider the DeVilbiss"?

The Sata RP is exactly the gun I am looking at. The model number I quoted is this gun with xxx being the placeholder for the various tip sizes.

Also, what exactly is the "3m system" that you are referencing in this case? I take it from this response that the Sata can spray upside down as well as the DeVilbiss.

Again the reduced pressure guns I am researching are the
1) Sata RP gun is SATA SAT92xxx (for example the SAT92106 has a 1.3 tip)
2) DeVilbiss GFG670 (comes with 3 tips!)

[willys36@aol.com]

I bought one of these last week. On sale for $40 and sprays like a dream! I can't immagine a $400 gun spraying any better but that's just me.

HF HVLP gun.

Only problem is I wish it held 9/32 quart instead of 0.3 litres.

[Oliphant]

Man that sounds too good to be true, but at that price I might pick one up for an "extra".

Also, please keep the thread going on the SATA, I really would like to get a comment from someone on the DeVilbiss vs the Sata RP gravity feed if anyone has first hand experience.

Thanks,

-Jeff

Originally posted by willys36@aol.com
I bought one of these last week. On sale for $40 and sprays like a dream! I can't immagine a $400 gun spraying any better but that's just me.

HF HVLP gun.

Only problem is I wish it held 9/32 quart instead of 0.3 litres.

[BarryK]

Originally posted by Oliphant
Man that sounds too good to be true, but at that price I might pick one up for an "extra".

Also, please keep the thread going on the SATA, I really would like to get a comment from someone on the DeVilbiss vs the Sata RP gravity feed if anyone has first hand experience.

Thanks,

-Jeff

I have two Sata RP's 1.4 - base and a clear gun.
I have also sprayed with the Devilbiss at Pickens tech last week
as they had two new ones. There is no comparison the RP wins hands down. I have every Geo hvlp and Optima hvlp and Sata Hvlp ever made and this RP is the best all around gun I have ever used. Its gone so well that Devilbiss has announced there coming out with an RP soon.

[Oliphant]

Originally posted by BarryK
I have two Sata RP's 1.4 - base and a clear gun.
I have also sprayed with the Devilbiss at Pickens tech last week
as they had two new ones. There is no comparison the RP wins hands down. I have every Geo hvlp and Optima hvlp and Sata Hvlp ever made and this RP is the best all around gun I have ever used. Its gone so well that Devilbiss has announced there coming out with an RP soon.

Ok, I need to make my question clear. I AM looking at the DeVilbiss RP , NOT and older DeVilbiss. I am actually considering the one you mention they are "comming out with". It IS already out. That is the model number I quoted. I am already sold on the RP completely. Just need to determine if the Sata is that much better with the $100 price difference and the $110 price DIFFERENCE per tip. I am looking for comparison of RP to RP.

-Jeff

PS
I bought the little Harbor Freight gun for a quick touchup extra gun I can "grab" for. Have not fired it up yet but WOW "willys36"
was not kidding, thanks for the lead! This thing is machined beautifully with heavy brass knurled knobs and a flawless finish as well. Absolutely beautiful item for 39 bucks. I will report soon on my findings with this as well.

[BarryK]

I'm sure it won't be out till late summer or fall.

[deuce_454]

I CAUGHT WILLYS DOING THE MATH WRONG!!!

Only problem is I wish it held 9/32 quart instead of 0.3 litres.

9/32 = 0.28125, quart, equals; 0.2661618 litres

so if you want it to hold 9/32 quarts instead of .3 litres, just pour less into it...



sorry willys mut i just had to pounce..


btw, i bought an Iwata 400, and i happen to believe its heaven sent, its a dream to work with, the quality is better that the sata jet i borrowed before i got my iwata and it is way lighter...

[Oliphant]

Originally posted by BarryK
I'm sure it won't be out till late summer or fall.

It is out now and available at SprayGunWorld.com
Here is the link, great price as well :

http://www.spraygunworld.com/product...0DEVGFG670.htm

(Well apparently the link works ok, even though it is displaying funny. It it gives you any difficulty just try www.spraygunworld.com and look for the DeVilbiss, then choose the New reduced pressure section on that page, and you will find it just fine)


-Jeff

[BarryK]

Guess I was told wrong! Let us know how it sprays!

[6speedwagon]

just bought a devilbiss finnish line.It had trhe liners for the cup.Too much of a hassle.It was about 125 and came with two tips...a 1.4 and a1.8.I use the 1.8 for primers and surfacers and the 1.4 for base coat and clear.Im not a proffessional so i dont need to spend the 400 for a pros gun.I hope this opinion helps.

[static22]

I'm the same way. Not a pro painter but bought two guns that according to the paint supplier where made by Sata and Sharp. A guy standing at the counter commented that he was using them with no problems.

The "kit" came with two guns and a pressure gauge for just over $110. The bodies look just like the Sata guns I was showed. One gun has a 1.4 tip and the other has a 1.7 tip. Hope they work for my one job but if not i'm sure it will not be because of the gun.

[sportbikeluvr]

Not to make matters worse but Ive read some good things about the Astro HVLP. At the same site as linked above, I picked her up with two other tips (1.3, 1.5 & 1.7) for arnd $130. I havent used it yet but hope to in the next month. I also ordered that HF HVLP Detail gun for $40 but it was backordered till just the other day, Im super relieved that ppl here have had good results with it, I was planning on using it for smaller jobs!

[roxy2345]

Try a Devilbiss Gravity GTI .... cheaper than a Sata and sprays very well