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Old 05-03-2007, 04:18 PM
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aftermarket wheels on a 66 bonneville convertible?

calling around for some american racing rims, a dealer advised me not to put aftermarket rims on such a large car. he said bonneville and cadillac convertibles are too heavy and they'll crush the wheels out of round. any experience either way would help out a lot. this is the first i've heard of this problem, but i have to take him seriously. after all, i'm offering to give him money and he's advising against it.

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Find a different dealer. That car weighs about 4400 pounds. There are lots of trucks, SUV's and suburbans that weigh more than that. You see them with custom wheels all the time. Originally custom wheels were built for racing because stock ones wouldn't handle the stress. The newer custom wheels aren't necessarily built for that reason but many of the improvements used for racing wheels are incorporated.
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Im thinking NONSENSE

Just pick some wheels with some meat
Torqe-thrust is era correct.
I have a set of Torqe-thrust on my 18ft flatbed---real magnesium circa 64
Pontiac also used aluminum for the brake drums in that era, with 8-lug wheels.
(I think they were cast alum. with steel inserts---not sure)

If you are that worried----just get some chrome reverse--also looks good on that era Cheif.

anything bigger than 16s look silly to me---that car will take a 15 or 16 wheel and not look too out of scale

65-68 Bonnevilles----very pretty cars
I had a 67 at one time, a friend of mine has a 67 GP convert--the only year for the GP. Sometimes wish I had a 65 2+2.

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Wow, and here I thought I'd heard everything. If you're still concerned, get the catalog for the wheels you're interested in. The manufacturer SHOULD (though some don't) have weight ratings for each wheel style. As others have noted, your car weighs less than pretty much any new SUV or full size pickup. Ask this dealer if he sells custom rims for those vehicles.
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thanks for the replies. yes, one thing i was wondering about is if wheels were built differently back in the day. i would think that in today's day and age, such large companies would over engineer their wheels to ensure safety and reliability and that this would no longer be a problem. physics-wise i don't even think it makes sense that a wheel would flatten. the tire takes the weight and distributes it evenly around the wheel.

so the wheels i've been considering (on a white bonneville)
-torq thrust original (supremes) 17"
-hopsters 16"
-salt flats 16"
-and a wild hair up my *** to consider chromed 16" rally II replicas.

what do you think?
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I love Rally II's. Put some red center caps and lugs and they look great.
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Torque Thrust-------era correct & a timeless appearance
Ralley II-------------Pontiac OEM----Looks like they coulda been original.

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Oh yeah, I like the Torque Thrust too. Especially on a classic.
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my concern about the ralley II is that it wasn't OEM. not on a bonneville anyways. would that be the equivelant to putting an SVT badge on a mustang GT? that's why i think it would be cool to chrome them instead of having the dark centers. come to think of it, they would almost look like salt flats. time to get out the digital camera and do some photoshop.
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I agree with your wheel guy and would never trust todays cheep chinese porous aluminum wheels. The wide track puts additional stress on wheels during very hard cornering something a new SUV will never encounter.
Get some steel wheels if you want to go fast or get some vintage wheels like I have if you want to drive to shows and cruises.

I have a set of vintage American wheels on my 64. I've had it up to 145 mph, smooth as glass. But they're old, and I like to dust new cars on the open road so I'm switching to stock style chrome rims from Wheels of Steel.
http://www.custombuiltsteelwheels.com/
The steel rims are wheel centric and ride on the center hub instead of riding on the lug nuts like the Americans.
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66bonbon... I want pics !!!!

I have a 66 4drHT that has a Caddy 500 (soon to be getting an 8-71 blower), a Th400 and GearVendors OD, and a 10.5" 14-bolt rear. The front suspension is from a 3/4-ton truck with custom control arms.

Blasphemy... sweet blasphemy
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I agree with your wheel guy and would never trust todays cheep chinese porous aluminum wheels. The wide track puts additional stress on wheels during very hard cornering something a new SUV will never encounter.
Very important key words here. Search for quality.
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True, but "wide track" was a marketing ploy. Factory wheels on a pontiac were the same offset as other GMs. The pontiac B-body suspension mostly interchanges with all other BOP B-bodies, so there is no additional stress than any other.

BOP B-body suspensions haven't changed almost at all since 64. I scavenged some pieces off of my 96 Impala SS to use on my 66 Bonny. Chevy's were a bit different until 71 or so when they got on board.
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The Pontiacs in 1959 did have a wider track than than the other divisions. Apparently, people who owned them had problems with the cars not fitting on the car wash tracks. Also, look at a 1959 Canadian Pontiac, they look funny due to the Chevy chassis that the bodies are mounted on. I agree though, the later cars were the same as the others in GM.
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You can check in the wheel mfg catalog and see what the wheel is rated at as far as weight capacity. As your Car has the same bolt pattern as half ton Chev 2 wheel drive pickups it shouldn't be any problem getting wheels up to the task.

If memory serves correctly there isn't much room at the rear for over sized tires and or wide rims. I remember a few struggles getting tires on and on those things when I worked in a Firestone Store in Texas.
The problem is slipping the tire between the fender lip and the brake drum.

I have to agree that a 5 spoke wheel not more than 16 inches in diameter would be proper.
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