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View Poll Results: Turbo or Supercharger?
Turbo!! 26 37.68%
Supercharger!! 43 62.32%
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:41 PM
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While nice..."End of story!" would much better be summed up with this...





This car used to be powered by nitrous and a roots blower....it ran 8s...replacing the blower and bottle with this hair dryer brought him to low 7s...almost breaking into the 6s.

Then there is this one...



This car ran an 8.35 @ 168mph with 1.35 60's beating the LT-1 world record of 8.96...a supercharged LT-1 might I add.


The numbers speak for themselves


Turbo will outdo a blower anyday...Its the technilogical revolution, as much as the older guys like their belt driven power adders, they just cant keep up with turbo technology...their not just for imports anymore.
Yea but which one do you think would be the best chick magnet!?!
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:45 PM
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but you cant get a very good idea comparing a new GTP to a damn Probe



honestly, i dont see many chicks oooing over an old coupe...unfortunately most of them go after the import crowd today
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:56 PM
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Try driving a pre-war Willys coupe gasser to a rod run some time and see who wins the ooing contest!!
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compare stock to stock

turbo: grand national, srt4, wrx sti, talons,omnis, and others

supercharger: late model monte carlos, bonnevilles, and thats all i can think of right now

i think those stock turbo cars are a hell of alot faster than the stock supercharged
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:02 PM
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Ive said it a million times.
Its weather you like the big power n looks or big power n stock look.
To me, nothing says wow more than a belt drivin, whinning like a grandma with arthritis belt drivin blower. HG
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but you cant get a very good idea comparing a new GTP to a damn Probe
Uhhh ... yeah ... that's what thought I said And you're right ... there's absolutely no comparison
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well ill have to agree with the SC guys for the asthetic look and "takin it back to the roots" style...but if you wanna win races...turbo is the only way to go.
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:20 PM
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My vote would have to go to the centrifugal supercharger. Like a turbo, centrifugal superchargers can be installed underhood and are capable of running a TON of boost, but the supercharger does not require the custom exhaust that the turbo does.
i agree, i want to get a vortech or a paxton for myself to put on my 383 TPI to see what kinda power i can make

plus they don't look all that hard to install

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Doesn't the Ford modular engine have a roots option? I'm pretty sure a friend of mine got the roots SC on his '04 Mustang Cobra.
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Doesn't the Ford modular engine have a roots option? I'm pretty sure a friend of mine got the roots SC on his '04 Mustang Cobra.
Yep, but they are pretty weak from the factor. I think with some mods they will push better than 500HP.
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My engine builder and me had this conversation a week or two ago and his comments were something like this. Turbos are fine if A you have room B you dont mine the high underhood temp C dont mind the extra weight of plumbing under the hood D cost of haveing the tubing made ( or time if you can weld aluminum at home )

I wanted to do turbos on my car but after all that and seeing a friends f2 prochargered acadian im seriously tempted to go that route . Roots blowers always have a place in my heart just it pains me to think of cutting my hood

Regards Mike
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:16 AM
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well ill have to agree with the SC guys for the asthetic look and "takin it back to the roots" style...but if you wanna win races...turbo is the only way to go.
That's an ignorant comment, there's plenty of superchargers out there that win races. People don't just get them 'for the look' they get them because they're also powerful and have instant power.

I don't know much about turbos but I was reading some other comments in this thread and someone said you can tune a turbo so it has no lag. Where as a S/C you just slap on there and adjust your timing and there you go.

I'd probably have either but I've always loved superchagers, they make it look like you have something powerful under (or over) your hood.
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I voted for supercharger.

easy to install, tune up, low end torque, sound...
the turbo is more difficult to install for a no-welder.
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Well the issue with turbo lag is eliminated when you "brake torque" at the line. When drag cars have turbos, they spool up at the line so when the light turns green they are leaving the line with near full boost.

True on the part of difficulty, SC is much easier.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:30 PM
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A properly setup turbo system will experience minimal lag. Lag is a result of low velocity due to both/either a turbo that is too large (meaning piping/inlet is too large for the volume) and an overall system that does not promote smooth airflow (meaning sharp curves, ridges, etc).

If you build a turbo system that is both efficient in size and airflow pattern, you will experience little lag.
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