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Old 03-25-2006, 05:52 AM
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Anyone with experience on airbags for cars in 30's? Is there an economical approach?

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Old 03-25-2006, 11:41 AM
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Air Bags

It is possible to go with an economical approach as shown by berkelusa who has a journal on this site:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...24&action=view

He also has a web site (air bag system starts on page 8):

http://www.ammoman.com/chevy/

This will give you some idea's how to approach such a system. If you have the creative and practical skills you can do it without buying a manufactured system. If not there is several companies out there that will supply you with a kit.

As well you can use the search link at the top of the page to look at what has been talked about on this site. Just type in air bags and you'll find lots of info.

You will get a lot more answers if you re-enter your question in the suspension forum.

I just realized maybe you where really looking for info on air bags as they related to accident air bags. If so disregard the above.

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Old 03-26-2006, 07:14 AM
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Yes Accident Type Air Bags

Sorry for confusion....
At my age, I often forget there is something new out there called air bag suspension systems...I'm referring to airbags for deployment upon impact. Anyone got any ideas?
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Old 03-26-2006, 05:20 PM
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I was told that late model steering columns have the impact sensors built right into the column. (Previous designs had impact sensors out on the front of the car.) So it should be as simple as retrofitting a late model column into your car.

Depending on what look you are after this is likely easier said than done, especially in a 30's vintage car. However if you are not going for a vintage interior look, I would think it could be accomplished. Some of the newer columns (like the '06 Mustang) even has a smaller sized steering wheel insert.

I also have contemplated swapping columns to obtain the safety of air bags, but for a 60's musclecar, which should be considerably easier.

Good luck.
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:28 AM
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PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

There is a whole lot more involved than just a bag in a column! Just the Bio-science and kinematics involved here are way more than I can go into. The everyday guy absolutely does not have the information available to them for a one off job.

Between the triggering system to the belts there is far too much involved to set one up and in the end it could be more of a safety negative rather than a positive.

If you or your passenger actually need an airbag during a crash there is a high possibility of it breaking your neck or damaging your internal organs.

Trust me with 2 little kids and a wife that want to go everywhere with me in my 50 ford. I can understand the want, but old cars have an inherent disadvantage in safety that should be considered by all users when deciding on when and where to drive them. Belt adds are one thing, but an unproven Pyrotechnic device staring you in the face doesn't seem to be a good idea to me.

The speed of and trajectory of an airbag is highly tuned to many factors to prevent additional external and internal injury. If you miss any one of the involved factors there is an EXTREME likelihood of a broken neck, face, sternum and severely damaged heart!

Please don't put one in a Hot Rod, if you want an airbag system in a car stick with a factory installed car.

We have been modifying them and improving them as a System every year to reduce the factors and believe me they are tuned to the vehicle they are in. It takes over a year to design and validate a system. The interactions on the design sheets are literally in the hundreds of pages.

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Old 03-27-2006, 08:22 PM
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OK...You got my attention....you actually raised a number of concerns I had plus more.....So....I'll keep it like Henry built it...Thanks
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Joe, I appreaciated the question actually. Thanks for your reconsidering.

I really believe Hot Rodders are some of the most creative guys in the world. But there are a few areas that we need to be truely careful of.

Its one thing for your ride to leave you on the side of the road but its another for it to put you in a ditch or worse. Have a good one!!
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I am really glad that this was posted! The idea of adding an air bag restraint had crossed my mind, but after reading these posts, I can see that this is definitely not a hot rod option!
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