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Old 01-12-2005, 11:00 AM
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air conditioner rad for trans cooler?

Could a person use an air conditioner cooler (the thing that looks like a mini radiator) for a trans cooler? Just a matter of $. I have the air conditioning unit and I'd have to buy the trans cooler.

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Old 01-12-2005, 11:12 AM
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Sure. Aluminum construction just like a tranny cooler and pressure rating is similar too. Should work super.
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Cool, that saves me $50 bucks.
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Whomever did the 351W conversion to my former '58 Ford pickup did that. It worked pretty well too. Go for it.
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are you talking about using an a/c condensor for a tranny cooler?
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I'm not real certain about AC terminology. I usually refer to the belt driven "pump" as the condenser...but I could be in error. What I am referring to my original post is the miniature sized finned "radiator" that is a part of the AC circuit and is usually mounted directly behind the radiator in most auto applications. Is the proper terminology to call this the condenser?
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ya it is called the condenser. it looks just about like the radiator.you used this for a tranny cooler?hows it work?i might try it!
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I'm not real certain about AC terminology. I usually refer to the belt driven "pump" as the condenser...but I could be in error. What I am referring to my original post is the miniature sized finned "radiator" that is a part of the AC circuit and is usually mounted directly behind the radiator in most auto applications. Is the proper terminology to call this the condenser?

I have never seen an A/C condensor behind a radiator in the automotive world
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ya it is called the condenser. it looks just about like the radiator.you used this for a tranny cooler?hows it work?i might try it!
I haven't tried it yet...my original post was just to inquire if it would work. But I WILL be trying on my Rat Rod project unless someone has experience that says it won't work. Hope to have it running by spring or early summer.
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The A/C compressor is on/off, on off on/off so some cool air gets thru the condenser to the radiator in a normal set up.

The tranny will pump hot fluid constantly at a pretty high cfm to the condensor, may make the radiator hot. BUT the condensor has so much cooling surface area it may work great.

It won't hurt anything to try but NEVER use it for AC again.

It's a neat idea I had never thought of. Bet the tranny oil thru the condensor will pull out so much heat the tranny will be a heat sink for the motor.

Plan B: an old oil cooler works fine

Plan C: make/add "fins" (aluminum roof flashing) to the existing steel lines, all they need to do is touch the tubing, "accordian" fold the flashing, punch a hole for the tube, leave a 1/16" air gap in the "pleats".

Anyway, do try the condenser first and post the results please
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I have seen condensors used for transmission coolers many times.
Other than perhaps providing too much cooling due to the area involved no other problems that I am aware of.
You must remove any orifice tubes if they are present in the condensor.
Some models place one there but most are in a line closer to the accumulator.
If an "O" tube is left in the flow of fluid will be greatly reduced.
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Just so we're all on the same page, here is a pic of the A/C condenser/radiator I want to use as an oil cooler.



Originally I was asking about the A/C unit from the F-150 donor but I just dug this unit out from the storage attic. It's from a Mazda pickup and measures about 16" x 10". The unit from the F-150 is about 24" x 18". This smaller unit will be less conspicuous but is still about the same size as a B&M cooler so hopefully it will have enough fin area.
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cboy,

Man is that sucker gona cool!

I'd pressure test it for leaks with air first, before mounting.

There's not much pressure from the tranny pump, hoses and screw tight clamps will do.

As Stu said "may be to much cooling" (I agree). If the tranny temp is to cold, I'd just rip off some of the fins and/or block some air if the radiator allows it.
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That's more than big enough. The B&M 'Super Duty' ones are about 10" x10".
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AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaayup.
Should work.
Hook it up.
Let her fly.
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