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do i want to use pipe dope or sealant tape for the joints? Ivan

NO! Not if you ever intend to paint anyway, the Teflon in those products can find it's way into the air stream and cause serious problems with paint and for the same reason don't use any kind of Silicone sealer. I have used Permatex gasket sealant, the non-Silicone non-hardening type, very successfully however.

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So like the blue gasket sealer or the"right stuff"? That's why I'm asking cause this is my first real air line setup. Thanks for the all the help I can get. Ivan.
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So like the blue gasket sealer or the"right stuff"? That's why I'm asking cause this is my first real air line setup. Thanks for the all the help I can get. Ivan.
I would put a water trap first thing. I agree with oldred on sealer.

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So a filter at the end of my flex line and a filter at the last drop? I have some "right stuff" gasket sealant would that work for thread sealant? Thanks again. Ivan.
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So a filter at the end of my flex line and a filter at the last drop? I have some "right stuff" gasket sealant would that work for thread sealant? Thanks again. Ivan.
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Sorry for dragging this on. I appreciate all the input from everyone. I just don't want to tear it all apart because I forgot something but I guess that's what its all about. Learning from your mistakes. Thanks again everybody for their input. Ivan.
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So like the blue gasket sealer or the"right stuff"? That's why I'm asking cause this is my first real air line setup. Thanks for the all the help I can get. Ivan.

I am a bit confused by what you are saying but for sure you DON'T want to use any "Blue sealer", that is almost certainly going to be Silicone based. Even microscopic amounts of Teflon or Silicon getting into the air stream will wreak havoc with paint! Old fashioned BROWN Permatex non-hardening sealer works great however.
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I'm still back and forth between copper and black pipe. Anyhow everyone has gave me great input and now I should be able to build a good moisture free system. Thanks to everyone again.
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Thanks for the links. I'll have to read those before I officially get started. Ivan.
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The important thing to note in all of the piping schematics shown in this thread is that there is not a water trap or filter at the outlet of the compressor. The design of the piping IS the water trap. An additional device used before the piping run will only add restriction (and cost) with little benefit since the water is mostly vapor when it leaves the compressor. The water needs to cool and condense out in the piping, then use a water trap at the outlet.

Now, if we're talking about a chiller at the compressor that physically cools the air and condenses the water out first, that's an entirely different discussion.
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I'm still back and forth between copper and black pipe. Anyhow everyone has gave me great input and now I should be able to build a good moisture free system. Thanks to everyone again.
I'm with oldred, confused. First you said you were going to use the black pipe, now you say you haven't made up your mind, to me it's a no brainer.
Oldred And I both told you not to use a searler with silicone, I misread that you wanted to us a gasket sealer, the answer is no. You want to use one that is non-siliconed based. If you use silicone it will linger in your shop for years, one of the things that happen is fish eyes when you paint.

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Sorry for the confusion. Oldred said permatex so my first thought was gasket sealer so I had to ask.
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[QUOTE=Chevelle427Rat Oldred said permatex so my first thought was gasket sealer.[/QUOTE]



Well I guess they are both Permatex brand and I probably should have been a bit more clear about which Permatex I was talking about, the old fashioned Brown type is all I use for anything including gaskets. The Blue/Red/Black/Clear Silicone based stuff regardless of brand should never be used on anything that has to do with paint and it has caused some people problems in the past, sometimes mysterious paint problems can be traced back to this type of contamination from different sources including the air supply. I will not even allow "Armor-All" type products in my shop for any purpose for the same reasons, with the price of paint these days it is not worth the risk.
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