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Old 01-15-2011, 11:19 AM
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air shocks ???

my 58 chevy truk spends a little too much time on the bump stops.
it's ok for cruising but, with any load it hits hard.
i am running stock springs minus the overloads, 89 trans am rear end flipped on top of the springs.
with the bed on i have approx 2'' of travel, as is; the punkin just hits the bed 'wood' as it also hits the bump stops.
ideally, i'd remove bed and notch the frame another 3 inches, which would require a hump in my bed.

alternately, i could add air bags. this would also be a big fab project.
i just got my truk on the road this summer after a 7 yr build,
i'd rather drive it than pull it all apart to redo this.





i like how it rides level, not higher in the back.
i did stop by a spring shop to see what they suggested. they recommended re-arcing the springs.
they offer to do all the disassemble, re-arc and reassemble for $275.

how ever i am a gimp, i have a scooter that i'd like to carry on a receiver style scooter carrier in my hitch.
i'd have to re-arc the spring to carry this load too.



i'd like to do the hotrod power tour in june. as a temp fix i'm thinking of adding air shocks.
would air shocks do what i need?

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Old 01-15-2011, 11:35 AM
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Shocks don't bear a load, or at least they are not designed to. You have little choice but to stiffen the rear springs to do what you want the correct way. You could go to a mono leaf with a progressive coil over eliminator and not need to fab a bunch of stuff.
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:48 AM
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Yes ...air shocks will do what you want....you will only have to put a little air in them, which shouldn't stiffen the ride too much.....When unloaded, you can decrease the air a little. An on board pump would be cool, but not a necessity
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Is it an optical illusion the rear axle and the C-notch are not in alignment?
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i'd say put the overload springs back on
if set up correctly, they should only come in contact at the top of the travel or when you are hauling a load.

what do you have for bump stops?
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:18 PM
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i think the hotrod power tour would be a good time
where is the jealous emoticon?
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i'd say put the overload springs back on
if set up correctly, they should only come in contact at the top of the travel or when you are hauling a load.

what do you have for bump stops?
or maybee try somthing like these hellwigs
http://www.hellwigproducts.com/produ...elper-springs/
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:04 PM
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the c-notch is lined up with the axle, angle of the pic makes it look wrong

the overloads are for extreme loads and would not have any load on them on the bump stops.
as i said in my original post; i only have 2'' of travel, no where near needing overloads
i use to haul gravel in this truck, bumper dragging loads that's when the overloads were needed.
the bump stops are outboard on the frame, welded to brackets. they are what autozone had on the shelf.

poncho: i do have a compressor i could install (also have a big a** truck air horn)
google search doesn't do me any good. 58? yeah right...

matt: will this do?
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I would bag the back shoot you already have the c-notch. Add bag mounts run the lines a small compressor in the bed a small box in the cab or a couple nice small switches mounted somewhere nice and hidden if you like. JMO


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Old 01-16-2011, 10:17 AM
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i can't say i know a lot about airbags other than what i read
can they be used as auxiliary bags with springs?
where would they go on the truk?
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Hey Ogre , I would try the air shocks , after all your not going to run a 100 psi in them all the time to jack it up like we did in the 60's . I wonder if they still make HiJacker air shocks ?????
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I agree try the air shocks first, If it don't suit you then you can alway's add the mounts and things and bag the rear later. http://www.google.com/#q=gabriel+hij...c6e4edb7c346ed .


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i currently have monroe-matic 33086 shocks on the back
anyone have an website that i can convert this number to gabriel hijacker number?
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Nive truck Ogre!

The problem with air shocks is the shock mounts were not designed to support the vehicle and air shocks = harsh ride.

Why not install air bag helper springs similar to these:http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...con/2320C.html

That way you are loading the suspension and you can pump these up and carry a heavy load without worrying about breaking shock brackets.
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The problem with air shocks is the shock mounts were not designed to support the vehicle and air shocks = harsh ride.

Why not install air bag helper springs like these:http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...con/2320C.html

That way you a loading the suspension and you can pump these up and carry a heavy load without worrying about breaking shock brackets.
Now that's what i'm talking about.


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