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Old 04-17-2005, 07:11 PM
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Airbag ERRR HELP

Does anyone know where i can find an airbag system for a 69 camaro? Better yet does anyone know if i can use a stearing collum from a newer camaro with that airbag system? Thanks i need healp quick!!!

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One has to ask, why are you wanting to install and airbag on a 69 Camaro? It is certianly possible to adapt a steering column from a later model Camaro or Firebird that had an airbag, but that is only one part of the system.

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I thought that he meant an airbag suspension system.....................but, why would anyone want to do that either?
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Its kind of a long story, though i will give you the begining.... My cousin badly wants a 69 camaro, he is 18. His mom will let him only if we install an airbag. I feel that this is a discrace but easily reverseable. Thanks for you help and keep it coming!
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Someone is going to have to explain to his mom that as long as he properly wears his lap belt and shoulder harness he is just as safe as if the car had a driver's frontal air bag.

You would have to use a later steering column for the air bag module steering wheel, sensors, logic module, all from a later car.

I think she is being unrealistic.
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I have often wondered how portable a vehicle airbag system is.

For one thing, you get a break on the insurance.

I suspect, though, that the systems are pretty well-integrated with the vehicle control system. More importantly, because we're talking about fractions of a second deployment time, I suspect that each system is "tuned" to the particular vehicle's crumple characteristics.

My reasoning is that the sensor is up front. When it detects a collision (i.e. the front of the vehicle has suddenly and dramatically decelerated), it has to process that information, and get it to the airbag, so that it will inflate before the deceleration has reached the steering wheel so that when you (still going the pre-crash speed) impact the wheel, the airbag is already there. If it inflates too soon, it will start deflating before you hit it. Too late, and it may as well not be there, or worse, it will hit you in the face just as you're heading for the wheel. Inflation takes some period of time. All those events have to be coordinated, and since we're dealing with minute fractions of a second, it seems like the distance between the front of the hood and you, as well as how much metal/plastic is up front, would be part of the equation for getting the timing right.

Of course, I'm no engineer. Maybe the systems are a lot simpler than I suspect.
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Of course, I'm no engineer. Maybe the systems are a lot simpler than I suspect.
No...You are correct. Even how the dash is shaped and how quickly the windshield will give way for instance (if it does) are all factors in the equation.

Designing a system for a race car would be easier than factoring in all the differences in indivdual car designs.
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How much would you have to pay for a decent ´69 Camaro ?
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My cousin badly wants a 69 camaro, he is 18. His mom will let him only if we install an airbag.
I really hate to say, but your cousin is 18, he is legally an adult. He can go fight in a war, be a firefighter, be a policeman at that age and put his life on the line everyday. He is putting his life on the line everyday he steps out of the house. Why is he not "allowed" to have a '69 Camaro by his mother. Does he still live under her roof under her rules? If yes to that question, then I doubt he is going to get a '69 Camaro. I think to put a Airbag system into a car that was never designed to have one will be way to difficult. If anything try to get him to convince his mom to put in a racing type of seat belt restraint system and a roll bar or cage. Other than that, if he can't convince mom, he drives what she wants.

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Not to mention, but unless this thing is put in by a pro, it could be more lethal than not having one. You wouldn't want an airbag popping out when it's not supposed to.

Sounds like mamma needs to let sonny grow up on his own....................
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Just put on a steering wheel off a car with an air bag and 'shazam' what she doesnt know wont hurt her or a 5 point harness, you cant beat the cool factor of that! or hes 18 and can do whatever he likes (to an extent of course...) thats the path i'd choose
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yeah my buddy is gona get a chevelle and his mom wants an air bag in it (hes 16 so he has to follow) so we're gona get the steering wheel out of a newer car with an airbag in it and bolt it to the collum not connect it or anything and he will give her 3000$ to have her write a check to pay the bill and we cash the check and no money is lost and the car has an airbag
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Easier to convince his mom than to adapt an air-bag system that is designed and integrated for specific cars and has undergone hours of engineering and testing crashes to work for that specific vehicle. If not installed right it'll be more of a hazzard than a prevention.



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And......You can't fool mamma..................she will find out, she always does.

Air bags are a complex system.....more than just the steering wheel and airbag.
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plus you need all the sensors in the right places so it deploys on impact. Just convince mamma with some flowers and a big hug. Though I doubt you'll have money left after buying a '69 Camaro



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