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Old 10-16-2006, 12:13 AM
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I watch a group of painters at Ford paint all night and never wear any protection... they come out of the booth with their faces covered with base or primer or clear... whatever we happen to be spraying.. and they think I look funny wearing my mask and demanding new cartridges weekly... I dont find the humor in not being able to breath when you get just a little older... Retarded logic IMO... what good is it to paint and do this work, if when you could retire and really have total fun with it, you are setting in a chair with an oxygen tank, with one foot in the grave... I tell them all everyday... " You are a bunch of Idiots for not protecting yourselfs"... they just laugh and smile... whatever tough guys!!!!

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Something else to consider is the fact that a person will quickly become accustomed to the smell of various solvents after a few exposures and then they will no longer smell it. When I first started doing paint we were using lacquer and in only a short time I had family members asking "how do you stand that smell" whenever they came into my garage but I could'nt smell a thing! The point being is that it could be a serious mistake to rely on smell as an indicator of the level of solvents around you and some things such as ISOs don't have any odor if I understand right. Those painters that BK is talking about probably could not smell that crap if they had their nose stuck in the paint can which would tend to make the dangers easier to ignore. Over the years I have watched several welders destroy their health with smoke and GRINDING DUST even though some of us tried to warn them, they laughed at us then but they don't have enough breath left to laugh much today!
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I did something dumb last Thursday !!

I've been doing my epoxying outside because I knew it would be sanded before any filler or 2K and have been pretty carefull with my mask and using a new set of NIOSCH charcoal cartridges to mix paint, to spray and clean up afterwards. I also used my chemical goggles, new nitrile gloves and sock. All went well until Thursday when I decided to finally primer the car body in the garage because rain showers had passed through. Instead of using my new SAS I decided that since I had had no problem with the rest of the car components outside, I'd be OK in the garage. NOT -- DUMB!! As I was spraying my recessed firewall, my mask snap came loose and I got a face full of fresh SPI epoxy primer. Friday was NOT a good day - I had eye troubles, constricted throat and wheezed plus felt like crap all day, Saturday was a lot better, but did no work and Sunday I was back to 99%. Today, Monday I'm back to normal(as I will ever be)

Lesson learned - I paid a bunch of bucks for that Hobbyaire SAS with a hood and am going to use it whenever I paint. My good health is not worth taking that kind of chance again.

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Old 10-16-2006, 09:21 AM
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Bondoking, good to hear you're careful now, while you're young.
Once you get old like me (and Barry ) your body starts reminding
you off all the things you did when younger. It's to late then.
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Old 10-16-2006, 04:04 PM
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In the early 90's I went for to Herbert Standox certification school. The trainer handed out some toners in the classroom, so that we could look at the labels during the introduction of their products. One of the students opened a can in the middle of the class to see the pearl color that was inside. The trainer got short of breath and a little pail-faced almost instantly . He had to step out of the class room to catch his breath and shake it off. He then proceeded to tell us that he had painted for several years without using a respirator. Because of this, he had become "sensitized" to the paint. He had made it all the way through the can't smell it phase and landed in the absolutely must not smell it phase. I was definitely impacted by this experience and have taken protection seriously ever since. I've herd that the average life expectancy of a pro painter is 51. I hope to make it passed that. I would love to see my daughters have some grandkids some day (not rushing that at all)!
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Originally Posted by pepi
speaking of safety has you been noticing all the mig welding without eye protection being preformed on the car/mc build shows... I guess face time is more important the seeing..... image even at the cost of ones own health, how shallow is that, and stupid.
Yep. The hand covering and glancing away technique...real cool.
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Originally Posted by cboy
I'm of the "a picture is worth a thousand words" school. Could you snap a couple shots to show this tip in action.

Sorry it took so long to get pics, but here are a few to help with this tip.
Notice, that it is important to keep the stick parellel with the panel. And to sand at an angle @ 45 degrees one direction then on the next pass sand at @ 90 degrees of that (cross-block). You don't want to dig grooves in the panel, so don't run the stick long ways, and avoid digging into radius and body-lines, those can be sanded with a soft-pad.
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Thanks colorme, very helpful pics.
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