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Old 07-24-2012, 02:59 AM
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alsa silver crystal pearl over black base then blood red candy clear Magenta problem?

I hope somebody can help me figure this out. I have been painting a few years. I get down to a mirror gloss black with zero problem. Ive been trying to get that deep gloss black and red shimmer on the area reflected off sun. Major problems!! My first one was some custom shop crystal diamond pearl powder. After a perfect mirror black single stage with a few coats of clear (pcl polyurethane, same formula color and clear, same hardner used) so then on top of my perfect clear I sand down to stick down a coat of the pearl (ruby red) mixed with their intercoat clear. Then shot some more single stage clear over that. cut n buffed. Very brilliant results with the effect I was looking for but the more I looked at it the less red it looked,,, Magenta! My gf and her daubter say it's really pretty but purple??? NOT FUNNY!!!
Attempt two- Spend the money, got some alsa crystal pearl in silver. Put it over my black with clear and WOW what a diference! These crystals are amazing! Black and silver pearl I almost didn't want to go with red. I got some blood red candy from alsa. I mixed and shot 3 coats with the red candy in clear over the silver pearl which was over the clear wich was over my black. I was so excited at the way it was turning out but a day or two later, it was the same magenta/purplish color as the other bike, just more brilliant.

I tried a pinch of pearl and heavuy blood, visa versa, same result. So They must tint my black with blue to perhaps kill the brown for a deeper black... because the magenta color I see is from a mix of blue and red. So I dig up some ppg omni black. Did the same thing on a test panel... same thing. I shot some rustoleum and some other aresol blacks and now everything in and around my house is purple and Im going insane!
The blood red looks red when in my clear. Very deep red like blood. I have some candy yellow Im going to try to spray over it and then hit it with more red and hope this will kill the blue that is making my life turn purple. I love this silver pearl but maybe gold pearl will give me red,,, Im gona try and take and uploads pics for you all.
It looks ten miles deep and is beutiful but im not a magenta, purple, red violet kind of man.

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I'll avoid the irreverent comments about Hello Kitty stickers to finish the purple theme. I'm kind of anxious to see the results thus far.
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DON'T say H***K****!!!!!!!!!! My girlfriend is Asian...EVERYTHING is HK.
I feel for the OP. What if you shoot a larger black test panel; and mask it off in a gradient?
IE spray the whole panel with 1 coat, mask off the farthest pane to the right, spray 2nd coat. Now mask the 2nd to last pane to the right (you now have the last 2 panes covered; 1 with 1 coat and 1 with 2 coats). Using this technique you can dial it in a little bit. I bet Tucson Jay will have some insight or Old Fool.

I wonder if you used the red on the black first; see what you get, then adjust either silver or gold on top.
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I wonder if you used the red on the black first; see what you get, then adjust either silver or gold on top.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! I will try that on my next test panel. So single stage, clear, candy mixed with clear, clear and silver pearl, clear and candy mix, then clear.
Today my candy yellow and rootbeer and black cherry candies will arive. I know its not the same, but I took a good pic in daylaight, opened in photoshop, went over it with yellow airbrush lightly, and it was like spraying bright red that was red for real. I doubt this will work this good with candy paint. I will get some pics up.
Btw, I have seen lots of amazing purple, violets, magenta, etc paint jobs that I loved on Harleys, hot rods, etc. nothing against it... Just doesn't suit an old sportsbike imo.
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I went with a diferent brand and switched to candy apple hok. It retoned the purple to orangeish red. I added some rootbeer and more red, its not fire bright red. I gave up trying to get a picture of it,,, it would come out looking a diferent color every time, none of which was close.
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