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Old 02-08-2013, 10:06 AM
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It's basically just another barrior to keep heat and noise to a minimum, you don't need to use it but every little bit helps. The micro spheres are NOT like asbestos or they wouldn't be allowed to be sold. As said prior by many...yes they will blow all over the place if you allow it and yes you should wear a paint mask or respirator when mixing.

This is how I did it.....I pour the gallon of GOOD exterior latex paint into a big bucket and VERY VERY carefully pour some baloons into the paint, mix slowly with a paint stick until all the baloons are covered....then pour in some more until you get the consistency of thin pancake batter. I roll and brush my cocktail, if you want to spray you may need it thinner, I'm sure everyone has their own procedure, just be careful and take your time mixing.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:07 AM
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Remember, this, and all other products of this kind, are intended for sound deadening, not for heat reduction. Any heat reduction is an added benefit, and none of them claim to stop heat infiltration. It's scary to inhale paint fumes too, just use a respirator when you mix the microspheres. Some people swear by lizard skin, and some people like to use other products. This concoction is a lot cheaper than Lizard Skin. It's up to you what to use in your car.
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I ordered the mirco-balloons today. Heck the place is just 30 miles from me... but shipping is cheaper than driving down there.

One idea I had.... I was thinking of getting an empty one gallon paint can.
Pour 1/2 of the paint into the empty can, and then pour 1/2 of the balloons into each one.
If it goes well one 1/2 gallon can should put on one coat,.. and the other can should put on the second coat after the first one has dried very well.

Just a thought. I assume it will keep just like regular paint as long as you keep it sealed well.

Well... I'm headed back to work on the street rod.
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home brew lizard skin

I applied this mixture to the floors, inside doors and inside quarter panels. Things I learned: One pound mixed with one gallon latex makes about 1 1/2 gallon. A cheap sand blast gun works really good. Lizard skin on top of por 15 does not hold well, I painted the interior floors with POR then applied the lizard skin, won't be a problem when you get the insulation and or carpet in but you have to be carefull putting tools, etc on the floor. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info.
Since I know that I'll just paint the sides, firewall and roof for now, and hold off on the floors until later.
I suppose it'll be over primer..??
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You can put Dynamat (or something like it) on your floors and firewall, and put the mixture over it later if you want.
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I read that somewhere before...
I assume you'd put the paint on first,.. then the dynamat.??
any theory why it would work better with the dynamat first??
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Vince

I have a question about your idea on micro ballons, if you mix with latex paint would it adhere good to the bottom of the car or would it be advisable to only use it on the inside of the vehicle? It seems like latex would not be a very good mix, I am no expert by a long shot but how would it hold up to heat say in the roof area, would there be any special prep on the body before painting it on or rolling? Would this mixture be close to the same as the lizard skin or coolcar? If it is that easy to produce why in the world would they charge so much for the stuff?

Sorry to ask all these questions, but your idea sounds great and I may do this when the time comes myself.

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For the same reason Starbucks charge so much for coffee. People are willing to pay,. also most people probobly did not know about this ,I Did't.
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I read that somewhere before...
I assume you'd put the paint on first,.. then the dynamat.??
any theory why it would work better with the dynamat first??
Because the Dynamat has a foil on it to reflect heat, and the poor man's Lizard Skin takes a long time to dry completely. Also, the smooth metal surface of your floor will let the Dynamat stick better. Put the Dynamat on first.
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Hi Im new here but Ive been lurking this thread for a while. From what I gathered, this latex/microsphere combo is pretty much for interior use. Im aiming to make something to put on my roof.

Does anybody know if this would work?

Roof Coating from Henry | The Home Depot - Model#: HE287SF871

then mixed with the microspheres in the appropriate proportions? It is designed for outdoor use, and seems to be similar to bus kote, cool kote, etc..

Since it is exterior do you guys think the micro ballons will assist at all in insulation?

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This is my first rebuild, so I am FAR from any type expert..
But if it were me I'd be hesitant to apply anything to the outside roof of a vehicle that's going to have paint over it.
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Because the Dynamat has a foil on it to reflect heat, and the poor man's Lizard Skin takes a long time to dry completely. Also, the smooth metal surface of your floor will let the Dynamat stick better. Put the Dynamat on first.
I can understand about the smooth metal surface holding the material well.
I know the foil is just one one side (or I assumed).
Does this stuff stick on perfectly solid with no 'give'. I figured if the was any cushiony give to it, and you painted over it it would crack the paint, thus letting in heat.
Also I plan to brush it on...
This is all new, so I'm just trying to learn from those who have your experience
You guys are just a wealth of information
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The dynamat is not thick, and is made of butyl rubber, so it's not going to give and crack the mixture. Besides that, the mixture is very pliable.
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OK Thanks Dan..
Before this thread all played out I assume you'd brush on first...
Yesterday I received the microballoons... so I'll wait until I get the fake dynamat stuff on before painting.
I think I can go ahead and do the roof and sides and get that out of the way...
Then when I get most of the interior work done, I can finish and do the floors
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Well I run across a gall of Exterior Premium Latex paint at Lowes yesterday for $15, so I got it to go with my micro balloons.

I also got the Peal-n-Seal stuff and plan on putting some of it on tomorrow. Might as well do the sides while I have some free time.
I rolled it all out flat so it would lay down flatter.

I'm not sure I understand the process of painting last,.. but I'm no expert and I trust you guys on how to do it properly. So I'm going to wait a while on that.
Thanks for all the help.

I'M SURE I'll be posting more questions as we go along.
Needless to say when I run up against something I might as well ask those who have experience and know how to do it right.
Seems it would be a shame to let all that knowledge go to waste.
Have a great weekend.
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