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Old 09-09-2013, 06:33 PM
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I want to brush on my home made Lizard Skin to the ENGINE side of my firewall (using latex paint / micro sphere mix) then once it's dry, I want to cover it with the cheapo Home Depot foil bubble wrap.

Is this okay?

Dave

I would not put the bubble wrap on the inside of the engine compartment. It is just foil covered plastic.

I would keep it inside the passenger compartment.

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maybe I missed something,,but why use cheap latex when you could mix the beads with the rustoleum. since latex is not 100% waterproof vs. oil based rustoleum that is.
as a sidenote, my last 6 vans/cars have been painted with a 6 inch roller and custom mixed rustoleum.
menards in ohio has a color chart of over 100 color choices,,
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I would not put the bubble wrap on the inside of the engine compartment. It is just foil covered plastic.

I would keep it inside the passenger compartment.


Okay. Is it all right to put the home made Lizard Skin on the engine side of the firewall without covering it with foil bubble wrap?

Like I said, I had the foil bubble wrap on the engine's side of the firewall for the last 5 or so years without any issue whatsoever. I just don't know if the latex-based home made Lizard Skin is okay a coupe of inches away from the engine WITHOUT something to cover it?

I could mix the micro spheres with Rustoleum and not use the latex if that's what you guys recommend - it doesn't matter to me!

Thank you for your responses!

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I think you would have much greater success with this if you put all of it on the inside of the firewall. I wouldn't use the bubble wrap, I'd put something like Dynamat or Fattmat on the inside firewall and then cover that with the generic lizard skin.
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Understood - thank you. It's my fault for not previously explaining that the engine is out and the interior is installed and finished.

In my case, I'd have to rip the interior apart to put the Lizard Skin on the inside of the firewall.
Since the engine is out, the engine side of the firewall's right there waiting for something to cover it!


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Old 09-10-2013, 03:54 PM
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O.K., I'd still put the Dynamat on the firewall first and put the generic Lizard Skin on top of that.
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O.K., I'd still put the Dynamat on the firewall first and put the generic Lizard Skin on top of that.


with the dynamat would he even need the lizard skin ,,that dynamat is amazing stuff blocks heat and sound very well
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I called everybody I could think of last night and unfortunately, I can't find any Dynamat locally. This engine's going back in tonight so there won't be any Dynamat on the engine side of my firewall this time around.

I put a layer of the home made Lizard Skin on the firewall last night before bed. (Using Rustoleum rust paint).
I don't know how well it will work but even if it only knocks out 10 or 20 degrees of heat, it's better than nothing.
Before I install the new engine, I'll try to do some sort of heat test to see if I can find a temperature difference between the engine side and the interior side - and I will report back here.

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Old 09-11-2013, 07:18 AM
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The Dynamat would probably be enough, but he could cover the Dynamat with the Lizard Skin in any color he wanted and it would look better. The reason I said Dynamat was that it would adhere to the smooth, clean metal extremely well, and he was going to use foil faced bubble wrap. The Dynamat would just be a lot better choice than the bubble wrap.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:14 AM
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That is what I was thinking also .the bubble wrap will probably melt and I would keep a fire extinguisher close by as latex paint is flammable as is the bubble wrap.

the fumes from hot latex could be toxic also ,,,I would check before putting it under hood next to extreme heat. Just saying
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I've had the bubble wrap on the firewall for the last 5 years and I haven't had any problems with it. In fact, I had it 2 inches away from my turbocharger and it still didn't melt.

Instead of using latex paint to mix the microspheres with, I ended up using Rustoleum rust paint and I brushed it on the firewall.

The whole purpose of my wanting to use a home made concoction of Lizard Skin was to get away from using high dollar "real" Lizard Skin or high dollar Dynamat / Hushmat etc.. The foil bubble wrap is cheap and even if it is only a weeeee bit better than nothing, it might help a little bit and costs very little.

I don't care about sound deadening, I'm in this for heat control from the engine to the passenger compartment.


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Souds like it should work fine for you ,,didn't think it would stand the heat,guess that proves me wrong,

That is one sharp truck.
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Thank you.

It's probably not the best stuff you could put a couple inches away from a turbocharger but it seems to hold up pretty well to the temperature!
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I had some extra Dyna mat left over so I put some on my fuel cell corners since is is only about 6 in from my exaust,,not that I thought it would catch fire ,,but to help prevent vapor lock

don't know how it will stand up to the weather ,
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This is a great thread that actually brought me here to lurk several years ago. Time for me to ask a question....

Has anyone ever poured the home brew Lizard skin into a panel opening and then rotated/turned/spun the panel to cover the inside?

I have a 70 Chrysler 300 vert that I want to quiet down. This car has the most highway noise of any of the big Mopars I've owned over the years. A lot of it seems to come out of the trunk area. The quarters were replaced sometime in the car's early lifetime and the usual heavy factory applied undercoating on the inside of the quarters is missing. I'll apply the Lizard Skin there and on the trunk floor.

I think I'd like to coat the inside of the deck lid too... but there is only some openings around the latch and hinges. I'm thinking I can take the deck lid off and pour some of the paint mix in the holes and twist and turn the lid until it's covered inside.

Has anyone done this??
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