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Old 11-13-2010, 08:06 PM
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AMC 360 starting problems...

I just put a 360 in my CJ5... replacing the tired 304. I used the 1973's 304's distributor and coil. The 360 is out of a J20... I think 1982?

Its getting fuel, has plenty of compression, even gets spark. Ive done the searches and made sure all my plugs are in order, and that I started at TDC.

I dont have the headers on it yet, but when we were trying to start the engine, fire would come out every now and then while messing with the timing. Cant really find the "sweet spot" while trying to time it.

I know that the dist/coil is some old stuff, and that I should upgrade.... and I will if someone could just tell me in plane english what parts I should get.

Here's some pics of what Im working with.... I know its a mess, but I need this jeep to hunt and fish, and not mess up my wifes truck anymore!



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Old 11-13-2010, 08:14 PM
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You may have set it to tdc on the exhaust stroke, so your timing would be 180 degrees off. Pull the distributor out, set the engine to tdc and make sure both #1 valves are closed. If they're not, just spin the engine over again and you'll be on tdc of the compression stroke.
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:19 PM
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can it be that easy? I mean... it was blowing fire out the exhaust!
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:21 PM
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It shouldn't be. That means your timing is way off, like 180 degrees off. You don't have to pull the dizzy put to check, just pull the valve cover so you can see the #1 cyl valves and make sure they're closed when the engine is at tdc, then see where the rotor is pointed.
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:52 PM
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ok, I set the crank to TDC... pulled the dizzy, then rotated 360 degrees back to tdc. WELL.... the spit out a flame and then there was a fire on the air filter. Couldnt get the fire out, so the carb burnt for a good 5-10 seconds.... I may have more issues... Im so upset that Im laughing! HELP ME!
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just throwing this in the pot, mabye check your point gap?
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:17 PM
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It doesnt have points....
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oo your right my bad
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Everything about this motor is the same as a small block Chevy. #1 is driver's side front, then 3, 5 and 7 going to the firewall. #2 is passenger side front, then 4, 6 and 8 going to the firewall. Firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 and the rotor turns clockwise.

Pull the spark plugs to make the motor easy to turn over with a socket and bar. Have a friend hold his/her thumb over the #1 spark plug hole (driver's side front) while you turn the crank clockwise with the socket and bar. When your friend begins to feel air pressure on his/her thumb, watch the harmonic damper as you continue to come around slowly and line up TDC with the timing tab. Now, you're on #1 TDC firing. Pull the dist cap and see where the rotor is pointing. Run your #1 plug wire from there. Continue around the cap clockwise and plug the remainder of the wires in according to the firing order.
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Well, Im not sure how extensive the little fire I had was... we will see in the morning.... Im po'd right now.

I have a whopping 150 and a quad I traded for this Jeep... So I guess I cant be too upset...

Thanks for the responces. I will check the #1 cylinder tomorrow and start over. I've been researching, and I guess the MSD is the "end all" of ignitions. Im still thinking of what ima do.
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If your trying to do this all by yourself, you can use a remote starter button connected to the solenoid to bump the engine over. Another way to find TDC without any doubt is remove the valve cover on the drivers side and turn the engine over until you see the intake valve on #1 cyl.(second from the front) close. Then turn the crank till the line on the balancer lines up with TDC.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:51 AM
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I have now done everything I can find out on the web and everything I have been advized.... I AM IN NEED OF HELP!!!!!
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:58 AM
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Sounds like you have got an engine with a slipped timing chain. Might be time to tear it down and check it out.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:59 AM
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wow, what are my chances of that!!!!
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You said you set it to tdc but you never saisd that you checked the valves! Oull the valve cover, set it to tdc where both valves are closed, then install the dizzy. Then make sure the fireing order is correct. Find out what way the rotor turns, then install the wires to the dizzy. Someone on here has to know what way the rotor turns, i have a feeling you're putting the wires in the wrong order also.
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