thanks guys, both sites are really good . I think it's what I'm looking for.Now, I thought I wanted to french the tail lites, like the headlites are , but if the car is shaved , decked, and flat black, may be the tail lites shouldn't be frenched, might be too plain or too smooth ???? What do you guys thinkl ? Does anyone have a picture of a car with a smoothed trunk AND frenched tail lites ?