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Old 02-15-2007, 10:04 AM
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That style of car was very popular in the 40s-50s, called "SPECIALS"

This guy is talented and has what most don't, an eye for style and balance.
So many just make boxes and rectangles with no "style" at all. I appreciate the effort but somebody they showed the project to early on must have known how awful it was. Why let a friend be ridiculed when it is so easy to guide them to the right path?

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Rob (Chuck) Berry's journal is a good example of what Good Frosty is talking about in terms of using pieces off existing late model cars, trucks, buses, what have you, to form a beautiful rod.

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...02&action=view
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Actually...the MG-ish Chevette roadster thing is pretty amazing.

It wouldn't be hard to replicate a body like that-

Pretty much, you'll need a 40's/50's fat fendered hood, which could also make up the cowl. Something to make up the sides of the cowl, and hood sides. Somehow would need to fabricate a grill. IFS might be allright on something like this running fenderless.

The sides of the body look like just flat metal, which is alright in this case, seeing as how the body dosn't look like some kind of washing-machine everywhere else.

Would need some fenders off of late-40's early 50's cars for the back, or trucks, sunk into the body sides for the back. Or if you had four just make them double sided, leave the back open or something. Saves you the effort of having to fabricate a deck lid.

As far as a Chassis goes. You could use anything as long as it was narrow-ish enough so that the engine isn't sticking out the hood sides and you have some decent engine setback. Rules out frontwheel drives, but you could use the suspension and running gear (maybe floor pan) out of a Chevette, Pinto, etc.

Even a Mini-Truck (with a scratch built frame, OEM is pretty ugly) could probably be made to work.

End Result would pretty much be something along the lines of an Crosley Hotshot, Mercedes Gazelle, MG-Something, Bearcat, Caterham, etc(Google them). Only alot cheaper and of a bit higher quality than the fiberglass stuff.



What gets me about most of these "scratch built tubs" is that people will take a decent cowl, then built what looks like a deepfreeze or something on the back of it for a body. When they could just have took some Cavalier hoods or something and built a decent body.
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A lot of good points.

Lately, Ive been looking at VW bugs as a possible starting point. Very different style-wise than what I had originally thought about, but very cool too. I went thru an aircooled VW stage in high school. Had a bunch of them. Always thought I might make my way back to them, in one way or another!

And I could probably find an old beetle non-op in one of the local scrap yards for cheap. Although, it seems that aircooled VWs prices are getting up there too. All I would need is the body. Would have to reinforce it a bit though, as much of the VW bugs' body strength comes from the pan as well. Then drop in onto a front engine, RWD chassis.

Something like this possibly... but without any front end sheetmetal.

And I think I might just weld the door shut, and smooth it.


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The only thing that is not hand built on my latest project is the upper part of a 34 Ford cab. (From the body belt line up) But absolutely everything else is hand built including the frame and all of the suspension. Oh ....and it's powered by a mid-engine 2.4 liter Porche motor and 5 speed transaxle.

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Or this modified (and somewhat photoshopped) VW. This is getting a little off the PURE scratch built concept, but nevertheless a potentially inexpensive alternative to high priced 30's tin.

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but nevertheless a potentially inexpensive alternative to high priced 30's tin.
Good enough

Hell, my wife and I just bought a house, are currently remodeling the basement, and are going to build a garage this summer.

Inexpensive is a GOOD thing

Im going to see if I can dig up some specifics as far as dimensions go (length, width) of the VW beetle body, and see what is possible.
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I always thought VW's were stuck in the mid-late 30's body style.

Now your getting a little more onto the line of building something more early hot rod style. If you lose the front sheetmetal, roof, and rear fenders, chop the windsheild, you'd be well onto the way of a decent tub.

You'd need a straight axle and a decent frame, which wouldn't be too hard to come up with.
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Yeah, I think I have set myself on using a bug. Unless something else presents itself, I think this will work out great.

Ill have to get some good measurements, and start hunting for a possible donor for a chassis. if I dont find anything close enough, Ill just build my own.

here are a few quick photochops I did...







Cool, eh?
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I would be very much interested in knowing what chassis a VW bug body will fit. Are they body-on-frame cars?
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Not quite. They are body on "pan"

This is a VW pan:

http://www.midsouthvw.com/buy-sell/c...-pan/pan00.jpg
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For the guys doing a "SoCal look" Bug here you go..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/4040...html?itemNo=VW

The front end kit that you need..Or just maybe the one you want..

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Wow there are some awesome homwbuilt rods on here does anybody have more info about the chevette based roadster?

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Idasho, take your bottom two photos and graft on a T style front end -- radiator/shell, frame rails, and suicide axle. Then do something with the rear "cowl" area -- it's GOT to be lower! Find some photos of convertible bugs, maybe that will help. Finding a convert would be difficult, or I'd say start with that as a shell. You could modify a T bucket frame to mount the bug shell easy enough. Hmmm... maybe even an old VW Rabbit convertible with a T style frame and front...

I've seen some a T bucket style truck made with an old mini pickup cab set back on the frame with a shortened bed. I think the original frame was used, but cut off at the new firewall location and straight rails welded to the front. Suicide straight axle was used.
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Wow there are some awesome homwbuilt rods on here does anybody have more info about the chevette based roadster?

Shane

Nope, Just found the link to it. Thought it was pretty awesome. There is a guy on here though that was doing a fiberglass-A type shell on a Chevette Chassis (With frame rails built)...or more like a chevette running-gear/suspension
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