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Old 02-12-2007, 11:59 PM
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Any 100% (or close to it) hand fabbed bodied rigs out there?

Any 100% (or close to it) hand fabbed bodied rigs out there?

All of my research and drawings for what the rig I want to build next had lead me to believe that I would spend more time (and more $$$) buying and taking a torch to an existing body, than to scratch build one.

That, and I really would hate to waste a perfectly good body that somebody else might put to use

For those of you familiar with drastic body mods, or scratch built bodies, any tips, ideas, or links?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 02-13-2007, 12:22 AM
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Try www.metalmeet.com and see what those guys are doing..Do a search on Randy Ferguson as he does that sort of thing.. Check out Cboy's Journal to see how he did it..

I am seeing more interest in this sort of thing as original or repro tin is getting to be high priced plus guys like the challenge of I did it..

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Thanks for the response.

Yes, things are getting SPENDY. And it seems that anything worth a darn is hundreds of miles away, half buried in a field
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As OMT mentioned, here's the scratch built roadster I did a couple years ago. You can see every step of the build by clicking on my project journal. This entire car cost a hair less than $5K and is a hoot to drive.



This is my other scratch built. It was done by Charlie Titman in Vancouver B.C. There are also a few pics of the body construction in my journal. I guess it goes without saying I am a huge fan of scratch building and I highly encourage it as a cost competitive option to original metal. I'm in the process of building a third one right now.

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This thread discusses, and has a few ideas about building a body, or "Rat Rod" from scratch. Really, its worth reading if your thinking about it.
Scratch Built Rat Rod


This is my own "scratch built" early roadster styled body. I found a 78' Ford Truck hood in a pile of parts in the woods behind my house, drug it to my barn, measured, and sawed a 10-inch strip out of the center with a Sawzall.

What really, got me about these hoods, is that they curve around in the back, half a small flat ridge, which would be a good place to splice in sheetmetal to fill the back. The hood curves down on the sides, and there is a large ledge on the inside which would make a rather sturdy place to weld in a floor. The front part of the hood (which would now be the cowl/firewall area) Is slightly raked back, but there is a piece of metal that runs up both sides for support thats built in at the factory.

So you could actually use flat metal for the firewall (attached to the inner support, which is flat, body would still have a good profile) and the rear of the body. A couple of pieces of angle iron would tie the bottom together pretty well, I'm sure that once the floor is solid, and the back and firewall welded in, that there wouldn't be too much flex (if any) in the body, still might want to get some pretty thick flat bar and run across the back. The only problem is the lack of doors, but some time with a saw could fix that.

Still needs some kind of cowl/windsheild posts, but a brake and a sheet metal could solve that also.

My biggest problem (and why I never finished) was that I cut too little out of the center of the hood, leaving me with a body that is way too tall. Also, this hood had been slathered in bondo, laid upside down in the woods for 10 years, and horribly repainted about 5 times. So it wasn't in the best shape either. One day, I'll find a decent hood and possibly try again.
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Thanks SO much for the responses. Looks like Ive got a ton more to read

Ive already dug into your Journal Cboy Fantastic work!

My plans are simple so far, and are designed simple to avoid many obstacles like doors and windows, and hard to manage body contours.

Just a simple tub with very few compound radius', no front end sheet metal, and open rear wheels. Im even tossing around the idea of a remote mount, electric fan pushed radiator in the "trunk" area to open up the front end. Give it more of a buggy look. Every one of my sketches with no front radiator just looks much better (IMO)

Im thinking open top with a small wind screen, and "doors" that are nothing more than a lowered portion of the sheet metal to allow for access. Very similar to a lot of "half doors" used by rock crawling jeeps and such.

Entire body would be built upon a square tube frame.

Of course, it is barely on paper at this stage.
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What about a mid/rear engine set-up?
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Im even tossing around the idea of a remote mount, electric fan pushed radiator in the "trunk" area to open up the front end.
Idasho,

I would not encourage the rear mounted radiator. I did it on my roadster and had a great deal of difficulty getting it to cool properly until I installed a small auxiliary radiator in the normal front position. I thought I would save money by using my stock (F-150) radiator and hiding it the rear...but as it turned out it there was little, if any cost savings, while there was a LOT of headache. Others have done it successfully, but I wouldn't recommend it for the novice...and I wouldn't do it again myself.
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Not the steelie you probably are interested in but I am in the process of reproducing Ed Roths 'glas Mysterion. Have the cyclopse headlight pod done so far, will attack the rest soon hopefully. See my Journal.



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What about a mid/rear engine set-up?
Ive thought about it, But really prefer to run a standard 5-speed trans, without any fancy shift linkage. Although, it would lend a hand is sweet weight distribution, and make the thing handle very well.

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I would not encourage the rear mounted radiator. I did it on my roadster and had a great deal of difficulty getting it to cool properly until I installed a small auxiliary radiator in the normal front position.
Thanks for the heads up. Curious though, what motor are you running? 302? Or a 351? Again, this car is barely in the planning stages. Im tossing ideas around right now. When it comes time to actually start drawing real plans, Ill decide.

Im set on using a DOHC V6 high rever... from a Taurus SHO. Ive got a Supercharged SHO project right not that was in the works more as a "something to do in the spare time" project, and am going to scrap the Taurus and use the motor.

On the same subject, Ive my daily driver is a SHO as well. Modded, and fun. Ive been involved with SHOs for more than 5 years now. Im starting to get bored of the car, but not of the motor.

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willys36@aol.com I am in the process of reproducing Ed Roths 'glas Mysterion.
WOAH!! Crazy project indeed! Ive never seen such a car. And would never even thing of building such a body.

Very cool project!

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A few years back in Hot Rod Mechanix Tex Smith was playing with a roadster body idea built from a mini-truck (Datsun, Toyota, Isuzu) pickup bed. I don't remember whether they ever got it finished or just dream project.
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Here is a car built by Virgil Exner (willer of the Fisher Body Craftsman's guild and later chief auto designer at Ford for years) as his master's thesis @ Notre Dame. Nice essay, don't you think?!
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hand fabbed bodies - Wood.

Livio De Marchi drives his hand built car/boats in Venice - he carves them out of wood. It enables him to drive around the Venician canals in style, much to the delight of both tourists and locals.
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Pre-Stamped body parts that can be improvised, into an actual body, are useful because their, for the most part, already reinfroced and braced on the inside of the skin. Also, they've got curves and body lines you don't have to do yourself. Plus, their alot cheaper usually than actual sheet-stock.

Just use your imagination.
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Built using some Chevette Parts, what looks like some old fenders, and a wheel barrow.
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