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Old 02-27-2011, 08:24 PM
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Any Improvement On My Welding???

He guys I've been practicing what do you think? I'm getting a little splatter. How come? I'm using a Miller 211 with 75/25 set at 20 with the autoset on. Suggestions?

I'll try to take better pics tomorrow.

I seemed to be burning through the thinner stuff. How come?

Thanks again

Dave
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:54 PM
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i have the same machine and i dont use the auto-set
go by the chart under the cover, and tweek it from there.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:57 AM
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Must be a slow day hu?
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Some people will probably disagree but that auto-set feature is to me a waste of time, it is worse than a waste of time because some will depend on it instead of properly adjusting the machine. Fellows there is no one size fits all for every welding situation and even with that auto-set feature fine adjustment is necessary to get a perfect weld. Now some will argue that the auto-set will get you "in the ball park" and it will but getting that far is not hard anyway except for someone just starting out and even then that is quickly learned. Forget about having the machine set your welder for you, play around with the heat/speed controls and learn to fine tune from the start. IT'S EASY! It will become second nature in a very short time and your welds will be all the better for learning it. Start out on a piece of scrap and use one hand to hold the welding gun with and turn the adjustment knobs with the other while welding, most people can set a MIG welder perfectly for the job at hand in a matter of seconds without relying on the machines "close enough" setting (I know about the sensing and how it works but it still will usually be a compromise). Also forget about that old BS advice of adjusting the machine until the arc sounds like eggs frying! I don't know where that BS nonsense came from but honestly who would really want the arc to be splattering and popping like bacon and eggs frying?


Adjust the machine by feel, that part will come naturally as you adjust the settings while welding and as you get close the weld bead will smooth out, the wire will feed smoothly (watch for the wire "stick-out" to stay steady the same length between the nozzle and puddle instead of going long/short) and the sound will take on a very smooth buzzing sound-TOTALLY UNLIKE the sound of eggs or bacon frying!
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think your welder is better than your camera?

looks to me like you ground the weld b4 snapping photo?

easier to inspect virgin weld.

the back side view could give some clues of weld penetration.

yeap mr red ...matching bacon egg fry sound is double duty.... hafta perfect your cooking b4 u can perfect your welding...
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I just wire brushed it.
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..matching bacon egg fry sound is double duty.... hafta perfect your cooking b4 u can perfect your welding...


I never could understand that one but it seems like every time the subject of MIG welder settings comes up that old "adjust until it sounds like bacon and eggs frying" line comes up, not only here but everywhere else and it has for years! Splattering and popping like bacon frying is NOT acceptable! That arc should have a smooth and steady buzzing sound that will be distinctly different than if the adjustment is off by even a small amount with either wire speed or heat. That sound is a really good way to gauge settings and will be a smooth buzzing sound only within the very narrow range of the "perfect setting" for the task being performed.
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good point.

my frying bacon splatters everywhere...maybe the same w/ welding.

been a few years but there used to be some free welding videos on the net.

i learned from reading and thought how nice it would have been to have seen videos b4 i started welding.
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I never could understand that one but it seems like every time the subject of MIG welder settings comes up that old "adjust until it sounds like bacon and eggs frying" line comes up, not only here but everywhere else and it has for years! Splattering and popping like bacon frying is NOT acceptable! That arc should have a smooth and steady buzzing sound that will be distinctly different than if the adjustment is off by even a small amount with either wire speed or heat. That sound is a really good way to gauge settings and will be a smooth buzzing sound only within the very narrow range of the "perfect setting" for the task being performed.
The only thing I can think of is people were thinking of stick welding. But even then a proper stick weld isn't going to sound like frying bacon either.

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There is two sounds to frying bacon... I don't think they are talking about the popping sound... More like the frying sound... When the machine is set right.. It does have a little frying sound.. But without the popping...
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