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Old 07-17-2004, 01:31 PM
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Any tips!?

Anyone has a tip,trick or idea on how to remove a fallen Allen key inside a Vic Jr. intake manifold?

I tried with a telescoping magnet, a vacum with a hose taped to the end, a flexible '3 finger grab tool'.....with no success

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That sucks.

Can you see the allen key? If not, then you need one of those little mirrors and a flashlight. Then if you can see it, you should be able to get it with a flexible '3 finger grab tool'.

If you can't see it, then I have no idea how you'd get it.
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Old 07-17-2004, 07:37 PM
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If you can't see it, it is in the intake port of the head. Maybe it is stuck around the valve. Don't spin the engine until you find out where it is.
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A thin piece of vacuum or other flexible rubber hose, with a magnet taped/glued/somehow secured to the end of it, and go fishin'.

i personally use a piece of thin flexible wire with a magnet taped on the end of it. one of these days, i'll do it right and use jb weld.
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yeah a magnet jb welded to a piece of wire should do the trick, just dont loose your magnet... a magnet sticking to your cylinder head's runner wont be to easy to fetch! good luck fishin' ;-)
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Thanx guys,

I've taken the intake manifold off... and i still cant see it. Turns out it fell in a port where the intake valve was open So i took that spark plug out, and when i put a piece of rod in that cylinder, i can hear the allen key moving back and forth. So it is now in the cylinder I guess now i'll have to take the whole head off to get to that darn key. I swear its the first and last time i drop something inside an engine!!!!!!!!
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Thanx guys,

I swear its the first and last time i drop something inside an engine!!!!!!!!

LOL, FAMOUS LAST WORDS.....

bummer about it falling into a cylinder. better to have found out now, as opposed to later......
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That's awesome!
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Run the piston up close to TDC (gently so you don't bend a valve or anything). Fish around through the spark plug hole with a magnetic retrieval tool. I found one at a parts place that has the magnet on the end of a wire that holds its shape when you bend it, and looks small enough to go through a plug hole.

Radio Shack sells tiny (1/4" diameter x 1/16" thick) rare earth magnets (AKA neodymium magnets) that are much stronger than regular magnets. I have one on my driveshaft for the cruise control & it's still there after several 100mph episodes. Stick one to the end of a 1/4" steel rod & grab that key with it.
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