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Old 03-04-2012, 01:24 PM
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Just to add fuel to the fire I'm working on my own test of a diffrent product Here www.gadgetmangroove.com (They also do hho tech) I'm doing my test for tbi. The Idea as posted in circle track mag it the better one can mix the fuel/air the better the burning of the fuel in turn better mpg and power. I have links to my research here in hotrodders. Remember its a test not a debate.

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what gets me is

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Your not going to get any ware with out data to back you up the ones that don't what to try or look at the tech will just do so! They allready run hho car in Calif and have filling stations as part of a test program so please hho is coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JTTC...eature=related
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/fuelvap...technology.htm
>>people commenting on this unit with out trying it themselves to see. they just use a calculator and a sheet of paper with some anti hydrogen stuff on it. Its like someone telling me how to build a house with a calculator and a sheet of directions. thats not going to work until they go an build a house them selves and bang their fingers all to hell with a hammer. And learn what goes where and how to do it it makes no sence that's where i get the arm chair experts term from. etc.

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I read all of yesterdays stuff you wrote im waiting for the results

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Just to add fuel to the fire I'm working on my own test of a diffrent product Here www.gadgetmangroove.com (They also do hho tech) I'm doing my test for tbi. The Idea as posted in circle track mag it the better one can mix the fuel/air the better the burning of the fuel in turn better mpg and power. I have links to my research here in hotrodders. Remember its a test not a debate.>. go get em

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>I am waiting for your results very interesting
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>>people commenting on this unit with out trying it themselves to see. they just use a calculator and a sheet of paper with some anti hydrogen stuff on it. Its like someone telling me how to build a house with a calculator and a sheet of directions. thats not going to work until they go an build a house them selves and bang their fingers all to hell with a hammer. And learn what goes where and how to do it it makes no sence that's where i get the arm chair experts term from. etc.
I've tried violating the first law of physics. Doesn't work. You telling us that it DOES work is just making us laugh.

I highly recommend you post your ideas over at www.engtips.com. It is the largest collection of engineering minds on the internet. I promise you will be banned within a few days for being such an amateur and not understanding the simplest laws of physics.

This is no different than the hydrosilator or the pogue carburetor. It has been disproven billions of times, but some idiot with a dream and a unicorn thinks they've solved the world's energy crisis with a gallon of water and a coat hanger.
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How did you get out I just put you back there where you need to talk to other Turnips
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I've tried violating the first law of physics. Doesn't work. You telling us that it DOES work is just making us laugh.

I highly recommend you post your ideas over at www.engtips.com. It is the largest collection of engineering minds on the internet. I promise you will be banned within a few days for being such an amateur and not understanding the simplest laws of physics.

This is no different than the hydrosilator or the pogue carburetor. It has been disproven billions of times, but some idiot with a dream and a unicorn thinks they've solved the world's energy crisis with a gallon of water and a coat hanger.
I worked with a lot of engineering guy and most of the time it never works first time out of the box! Something are a give only because of year of testing but still ever car is diffrent never two a like Verebles one can't see so tell you pull out the old test lab and run that test that says this product dont work your know diffrent that the diy guy that says it does!
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I tried this hydro generator for several months with the baking soda added to the water...End results? I went with the water methanol water injection method instead...I see the difference doing water/methanol...I did not see any improvement with the hydro generator....supposedly up in flagstaff, az. Northern Arizona University did a small car and it supposedly did 80 miles a gallon on Hgenerator? I never saw the car, just heard about it from a college student working at the auto zone up there...He claimed they toasted the motor some how...Do I believe it...don't know....
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Too much

hydrogen can cook the valves it burns hotter than gas. some cars cant handle the hydrogen because of the ECM or computer what ever it has for control my 1995m Escort would not use it dont know why I tried many ways and still no go.
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Not really. on paper, hydrogen is 61k BTU per pound and gas is roughly 21k BTU per pound, but hydrogen is less dense, so when you put the 2 in the same space, gasoline is about double the BTU effectively..

Also, if you make 1 liter of hydrogen in 3 mins, and 1 cu/ft ( 28L ) of hydrogen yeilds 270 BTU, then your making less than 10 BTU every 3 mins..

You may be seeing a gain caused by the hydrogen generator, but it is not the cause of the hydrogen burning..
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Doesnt matter

what makes it get better gas mileage the short of it is it got 14 to 18 mpg before I installed the hydrogen generator. I don't know what the process is once it gets to the combustion chamber I cant see it or test it It could be Chicken poop for all I know, But what ever it is it gives me 24 mpg at 60 mp hour an a trip. Others have said they lost valves because of added heat from to much Hydrogen gas, I run a conservative hook up so I don,t have that problem

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Hydrogen Torches

Can get up to 6000 degrees according the the builders. thats hot
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I dont have any more temp gas testing devices I sold them years ago

it would be interesting to see some exhaust temps with and then with out hydrogen just to see and also measure the OXygen content also.
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it might actually be shaking up the water going down the road and pulling it thru the vac line. it would work like water injection and can cool the intake charge and clean the engine.. unplug the electrical and see if it goes down.

The simple fact is, 10 BTU of hydrogen is not going to burn anything up
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