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Anybody have any thoughts, burning hydrogen

On running their engines on part hydrogen, I may use it on my Rod with my 2.3 engine. I have had good results on My Ford Windstar v/6 engine. The computer was easily fooled into using the hydrogen. My 1995 Ford escort the 1st year for Fords new injection system refused to use the hydrogen it just kept pumping in more gas. I could not trick the computer on the escort.

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hydrogen or hho gas

have you the room to put a spark plug extender in the upstream o2 sensor hole with the 02 sensor screwed into the sparkplug extender? hho or browns gas tends to leave too much o2 in the exhaust, the o2 sensor sees the 02 count and adds fuel. moving the sensor out of the direct flow MAY or maynot help you. i have read where folks had good results, others, no change.......ya may want to spend some time perusing the net for browns gas, alt fuel, hho. there is a buttload of info out there in cyberspace and folks that have been down the same road you are on..best of luck bro.
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have you the room to put a spark plug extender in the upstream o2 sensor hole with the 02 sensor screwed into the sparkplug extender? hho or browns gas tends to leave too much o2 in the exhaust, the o2 sensor sees the 02 count and adds fuel. moving the sensor out of the direct flow MAY or maynot help you. i have read where folks had good results, others, no change.......ya may want to spend some time perusing the net for browns gas, alt fuel, hho. there is a buttload of info out there in cyberspace and folks that have been down the same road you are on..best of luck bro.
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>. I have since sold the Escort but I did put a spacer on the O2 sensor and it didnt work so i did 2 of them and still no dice. I knew it was sensing the Hyd oxegen residue but couldnt figure it out. My lawn mower likes it
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>. I have since sold the Escort but I did put a spacer on the O2 sensor and it didnt work so i did 2 of them and still no dice. I knew it was sensing the Hyd oxegen residue but couldnt figure it out. My lawn mower likes it no computer saves gas.
>I should have played with resistors in series with the sensors before the air butterfly etc but its history now
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On running their engines on part hydrogen, I may use it on my Rod with my 2.3 engine. I have had good results on My Ford Windstar v/6 engine. The computer was easily fooled into using the hydrogen. My 1995 Ford escort the 1st year for Fords new injection system refused to use the hydrogen it just kept pumping in more gas. I could not trick the computer on the escort.
Hmm, maybe that has something to do with the Windstar throwing codes and a check engine light mentioned in another thread?
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Anybody have any thoughts, burning nitrogen

On running their engines on part hydrogen, I may use it on my Rod with my 2.3 engine. I have had good results on My Ford Windstar v/6 engine. The computer was easily fooled into using the hydrogen. My 1995 Ford escort the 1st year for Fords new injection system refused to use the hydrogen it just kept pumping in more gas. I could not trick the computer on the escort.
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Anybody have any thoughts, burning nitrogen


On running their engines on part hydrogen, I may use it on my Rod with my 2.3 engine. I have had good results on My Ford Windstar v/6 engine. The computer was easily fooled into using the hydrogen. My 1995 Ford escort the 1st year for Fords new injection system refused to use the hydrogen it just kept pumping in more gas. I could not trick the computer on the escort.

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Windstar

My Windstar trouble started with a dead battery, I lost all info on the computer when i put in the new battery, Then I couldn,t get the engine light out. But I think I fixed it now..
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My 2002 Windstar went from 14 mpg to around 24mpg on a trip and when its around 60 mph average speed. I have a 22 gal gas tank and this amounts to 220 more miles per tank full. Figure that out by $3.75 per gal for gas average now this is a massive savings. Of course around town I only get 4 to 5 more mpg because I can go 55 to 60 mph. My system works on hydrogen on demand it uses all it makes and stores none. So any dangers of fire and explosions from storage is nil. Still problems exists freezing in winter unless you bring it inside I tried alcohol it still froze once the jugs gets 50% full of Alcohol and 50% Hydro mix you have weakened the mix and don't get enough Hydrogen. But I have had this for 3.5 yrs or so and will keep it going. I will try to include this Hydrogen on my Rod and see if I can stretch the MPG. And the electrical charged coils burn out after 6 months or so. But replacements are 15 bucks the cost of about 3 gallons of gas, not bad. I have all the stuff to try to hook one of these up to my Oil Furnace and try to save on Mid east oil. But havent had the time yet. My lawn mower likes it .
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Anybody have any thoughts, burning nitrogen


Nitrogen is not flammable. If it were, the world would be on fire.
Hydrogen is pretty impractical, and I dont understand what "residue" it could leave behind. When hydrogen is burned all it leaves behind is water .
Of course if you are mixing in the airstream of an internal combustion gas engine, who knows what that is doing, I am sure it is throwing off the hydrocarbon and monoxide amounts, affecting catalytic converter operation.
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Absolutely not

My emission tests here in Mass was better than if I dint have the hydrogen. the by products are water and Oxygen only good for emissions. Our state likes cars that use hydrogen its cleaner. You should go to the sites that have this and get some info. Don't listen to the types that still think the Wright Brothers never Flew. This Hydrogen works it burns hotter than Gasoline. so you have to not go over board and hurt your valves. Ive done the research. Go you tube and see demonstrations of Hydrogen burning from a canning jar with water and baking soda. When I first saw that i was sceptical until I did the same experiment, Then i made one for my car.. And its all history now for 3.5 years. Burns cleaner than any factory car that uses just gas..
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Hmmm. Interesting. I will look into that.thnx
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Just got off youtube

and found a lot of proof for hydrogen generators. go to you tube and punch in a search for hydrogen generators look for this one or others( hydrogen generator finally proven pt.1 ) There are lots of videos to see with proven Hydrogen gas savers easy to make or buy
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and found a lot of proof for hydrogen generators. go to you tube and punch in a search for hydrogen generators look for this one or others( hydrogen generator finally proven pt.1 ) There are lots of videos to see with proven Hydrogen gas savers easy to make or buy
Thank goodness... years of engineering failures have been solved by a 3-minute video showing you how to violate the laws of physics.

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you dont know what you are taslking about

I have a working system and works good. Ignorance is the worse thing in America. Stop adding to it
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