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Old 05-18-2006, 04:48 AM
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Good luck, I'm sure you'll eventually get it straightened out.
I feel your pain, I had a lot of problems with my compressor when
I first got it, and I paid more for a better one just so I wouldn't have
problems. I'm always that "one in a million".
The company got me straightened out eventually but it sure is frustrating to
get something then have to go through all that hassle.
I'm real happy with it now but it was a PIA experience.
Hang in there.

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My compressor history with Lowes

Ya really gotta keep on 'em for resolution.
I bought an I-R made by Campbell Hausfield (believe they make almost of the small ones for everyone) from Lowes. It was supposed to be 3Hp and lots of SCFM to power a die grinder and an occasional small paint job. It had a nameplate rating that said it was 3Hp. Now, 3Hp and a 20 gallon tank should keep up with a 4.5 CFM grinder. Took a look at the motor and lo and behold, it was a GE. Hooray - I was a GE employee (now retired) so I called my counterpart in GE Motors in Ft Wayne. Guess what - my 3 Hp motor is a standard duty 1 Hp with NO special duty rating. With the design sheet in hand, went to Lowes and said that I wanted the compressor that I paid for. After an argument, a threat of small claims court, I now have the compressor that I paid for. I did upgrade to 7Hp and a larger tank and it did cost me a few bucks, but at least it will power any of my tools and HVLP spray guns. What I'm getting at, you really have to read the spec sheets and even call the manufacturer if there is some hazy point - such as what is really the Hp/CFM at what PSI/duty cycle, etc. Lowes spec sheet will probably not tell you all you need to know. Even my ancient 33 year old Sears 1Hp/12 gallon tank unit works better than a lot of the new units and will probably still be running when my new one has been scrapped provided the tank doesn't rust out.
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Ireland, You got hit with something we have been b!$#%in about for months here and that is the outrageous downright fraudulent performance claims made by some compressor manufacturers. "Peak" or "maximum developed" HP ratings are pure non-sense and are usually twice, or more, the actual power output. The latest gimmick, since people are finally catching on to the HP game, is a CFM trick called "tank assisted CFM" which is plain b#!!%&^t and nothing more! My hat is off to you for what you did about yours and if more people would complain as loudly as you did this kind of crap would stop.
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Looks like we have to keep some pressure on suppliers and manufacturers. Some of the Chinese junk should be sent back where it came from. It ain't only compressors !! Though the final compressor I ended up with is really a 3 Hp/7Hp peak, which I knew when I bought it, it will keep up with my work though it does sometimes get into the 50% duty cycle.
Unfortunately for the shady merchants, I do complain when I don't get value for an advertised product and have made several "enemies" locally. Dumb/inadvertant mistakes are one thing. Gross negligence or outright theft is another.
Luckily, my auto supply and body folks so far seem honest.
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Sears sells 5hp direct drive compressors that are 110 volt,
that's an impossibilty right there.
Their 5hp direct drives have a 1hp motor.
When asked about that they say, "it produces like a 5hp"
That's bull too. Always check the cfm rating.

For power, always check the motor plate for the amp rating.
Amps tell the story, don't be fooled.
There's a conversion for amps that will get you in the ball park for
what hp it really is. I think it's around 7 amps = 1hp, thereabouts.
And remember, 220v is twice the amps shown and will be shown
on the motor plate that way.
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If the capacitor blew, he'll probably be able to see the body of the cap is distorted.

By the way...
I have a small compressor that needs a belt. I have searched for a replacement but have not found one. It's a Montgomery Ward [out of business] model. Grainger has a belt, but I am not a business so they wont sell it to me.
Can someone recommend a place to get one? Thanks.
try your local Napa store....gates belts. If the guy behind the counter will let ya have a go at the catalog, there are many variations on the poly drive belts.Used to get many different sizes/widths for an industrial customer.
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Sears 110 volt direct drive only 1 HP but puts out as much power as a 5 HP I think that is about the best one I have heard yet, LOL, I would like to hear them explain the physics behind that one! I had one guy at a store explain that the "capacitors made up the difference", whatever he meant by that, when I asked how that little cord was going to carry enough power to run a 5 HP motor at 110 volts. I thought his explanation was funny but that one from Sears tops that
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This is fun !!!

At 9 amps, 110 volts and an 80% efficiancy you would get 1.06 Hp. Now 9 times 5 would equal 45 amps with no losses calculated for distance or temperature. A standard house circuit is either AWG 14 or in a kitchen or garage, it is probably AWG 12. NEC says AWG 14 is to be circuit breakered at 15 amps while AWG 12 is 20 amps. To have a heavy enough wire and circuit breaker to carry 5 Hp/45 amps you would need at least AWG 8(read expensive) wire, and probably AWG 6 if you adhered to 125% of the motors ampacity and added in losses. For 220 volt service, the AWG 12 would work tho, but AWG 10 would be best for 5Hp.

This is an interesting web site:

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/w...esistance.html
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what is the diffrence btween PH and HP? I see some compressors having 1 PH motors. I bought a 49.99 2 gallon compressor, supposto make 3 SCFM @ 90 PSI and is 100 PSI max, I run it tandem with a 2 HP 7 gal Sears Companion that is rated for 4.5 SCFM @ 90. the motor on the small 2 gallon draws 2.5 AMP at full load and is rated for 1/4 HP is this right.
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1 PH is one phase. Industrial plants typically have 3 phase power to run their equipment.
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5Dogs...,
It's been two weeks. Any resolution to your compressor problems? Hope all is well.
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nope, no resolution, couldnt get no one to come out to fix it, there was a company that come up and looked at it, and he said hed be back, but never came, gave him a week, , then I called and he said he forgot all bout it and still never came back, so im dishing my own money out on tuesday and getting this thing fixed, wow did I get burnt!!

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5Dogs,
I hate when large companies/stores jerk around their customers. After reading your last reply I registered on the Lowes site and sent them the email below. Looks like the standard, form letter kind of response from them. My email is at the end. I gave a link to the post here.

Replied On 5/31/2006 4:58:36 PM----------------------------------------

Dear William:

Thank you for visiting our web site at www.lowes.com and for submitting your comments.

Lowe's was founded on making Customer Service a priority from the beginning. We are truly dedicated to providing the best service, products, and shopping environment in the home improvement industry.

If you need assistance, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-44-LOWES (800-445-6937) or e-mail your questions, comments or inquiries to CustomerCare@lowes.com.

Again, thank you for giving us the opportunity to assist and serve you.

Sincerely,

Amy
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Received On 05/28/06 00:35:22----------------------------------------

Please open link. Hope you don't treat all your customers this way. By the way, I'm "fish56" on that site.



Anyone have trouble with the kobalt compressor


Good luck to you. At the very least I would go back to the store where you purchased the compressor, with a print out of this post to show your efforts, and demand a refund of the money spent on the worthless warranty.
Bill

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Fish thanks for your efforts, Ive talked to like 3 different supervisors, and I never got anywhere, last time I spoke with them they were still looking for someone to come out to service it, that was last monday, Lowes can pretty much drop off the face of the earth is all I care, I was gonna by new kitchen cabinets through them, it was like 5 grand, now, no way !!!
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Thanks everyone who recommended a place to find my compressor belt. I bought a Harbor Freight 3hp 60 gal compressor, so I can look for the belt later.
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