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Old 12-13-2012, 06:01 PM
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Sounds great Carlos, glad to hear you've got it all under control and hopefully you land that job you've been applying for.

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Sounds great Carlos, glad to hear you've got it all under control and hopefully you land that job you've been applying for.

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That specific job would really make my day! Thanks.
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Well Carlos, I wish you only the best and hope you get it.

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So I'm taking all the accessories off the engine to clean and paint everything. Here's an example of the steering pump bracket before sandblasting, after, and painted.

My doubt now is that when I took the starter off it had 4 thin aluminum shims. Is starter shimming normal or is it due to something I should be aware of?
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Starter shimming is normal...save the shims and use them again when re-installing the starter...Very common, not to worry Carlos.

The rest looks good...what are you going to use to paint the parts with?
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the rule of thumb with starters is...if it has a shim put it back in clean...if it has 2 put back 2...thx fer shoppin at hillbillys...!
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Starter shimming is normal...save the shims and use them again when re-installing the starter...Very common, not to worry Carlos.

The rest looks good...what are you going to use to paint the parts with?
Hmm? I didn't get an email telling me you had replied.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!!!!

I'm painting all these parts with black Rustoleum bed liner from a spray can. I tried with one part a few weeks ago and after I gave it a week like it says to really dry I've thrown them all over the yard and floor in the shop and the paint doesn't scratch too much or come off. I thought that's best because in the future I can touch it up if needed without having to take it to the paint shop.

We had a white Christmas yesterday, first time it's ever snowed on Christmas day for my town, and it'll be cold today and tomorrow so maybe this weekend when it warms up a little we'll finish cleaning up the engine and painting it black. It's a Chevy engine in a Ford truck so I didn't know what color to paint it, orange or blue, so I decided to keep everything black & yellow since the truck is going to be yellow and black. So black engine and mounts, yellow Accel spark plug wires, yellow air cleaner cover and finally yellow valve covers.

Today I received 2 new leaf spring assemblies and all the shackle hardware. By Friday UPS is scheduled to deliver my complete floor pans and Shaun at the body shop is going to replace the firewall. I'm telling you I hate to do things 1/2 way so this truck is going to be completely restored if it takes me all year or kills me!

The only thing that's holding me up is a bushing that these new auto parts places can't find. I remember my uncle used to own a auto parts store and customers would come in and he'd look at the part, measure it with a small caliper and come back with the right part. Nowadays employees have to know everything about the car or the computer won't tell them anything. I needed an oil filter for the 350 SBC and they couldn't find it because I told them it's in a 1949 Ford F1. They couldn't even look it up until I told them it was for a '71 Chevy Camaro engine !

So now I'm stuck because I need the control arm lower rear bushings and they've tried 3 or 4 different ones and we still can't find the correct ones. Until I get those 2 rear bushings I can't start to put everything together again.

If anyone can get some part numbers for me to try it would be great. Up to now we are using these part numbers and they fit :

Coil Springs Moog 5276
Control arm upper front K6198
Control arm upper rear K6108
Control arm lower front K6333
Ball Joint upper K5208
Ball Joint lower K6145T

We tried K6110 but no luck. I think the clue here is the Control arm lower front part# K6333 because in their websites it says it's not for the '71 Camaro. The parts store guy looked it up under Chevy S-10 and it's exactly like mine so he ordered the lower rear bushing for an S-10 to see if that's the one I need. I'll know tomorrow when the part comes in. Man if I didn't like my truck so much I'd hate it !

Here are pictures. The inside diameter is roughly 12mm and outside 47mm. As you can see they needed changing anyway :
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the rule of thumb with starters is...if it has a shim put it back in clean...if it has 2 put back 2...thx fer shoppin at hillbillys...!
Thanks hillbilly, lol.
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UPDATE :

Mystery solved (I think, or I hope). I found a bushing that fits and it's not from a S-10 after all but I'm a little closer to figuring out what I actually have. I also found a kit that has both the K6333 and the other one I need K6109. It was under K6109 for both bushings for a 1971 Caprice and when I did the online compatibility it also came out as 1973 Camaro so I think I have a winner here.

To recap:
I bought my truck and the seller told me it had a 1979 Camaro front clip.
I bought parts for it but they won't fit and I ended up buying 1971 parts that some of them fit.
I bought all new parts again and they all fit and they're all from a 1973 Camaro.

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Old 12-28-2012, 05:37 AM
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Isn't it great when you finally know what your working on? I know I always feel like I have an edge when I can figure that out...LOL...Keep up the good sleuthing Carlos...It'll just keep on paying dividends.

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Yeah, it's a slooow process but at least I know it's going to be done correctly this time around because I'm either doing it myself or closely supervising everything. Regarding the painting with bed liner, take a look at the power steering pump and water pump after wirebrushing and sandblasting then painting with the Rustoleum spray can bed liner. Of course it looks even better in person and probably would look even better if I paid someone a few hundred dollars for a professional paint job but this way it's clean, durable, inexpensive, and I can retouch it myself down the line if needed. I just noticed I missed a spot on the water pump

My next goal after all this project is done is to learn a little more about compressor painting. My neighbor has been teaching himself but materials are expensive and his way of trial and error is adding up quickly! Advantage is that I'm learning from his mistakes.
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It does look good Carlos, I can tell by what you've done so far that it's going to turn out to be exactly what you want...you seem to be a quick study...and yes, paint material is expensive, learn as much as you can from your neighbor and trust me, you'll learn even more when you do it yourself.

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So I've painted my engine and have started to put everything back together. New oil filter, spark plugs, air filter, etc. but I'll add oil after I change the pan gasket. It wasn't leaking that I can remember but I want to take the pan out before adding oil in case it has sludge stuck to the bottom I can clean it out.

I installed the starter and when I was going to install the motor mount brackets I got this surprise. Different part numbers (334970 & 334601) so I don't know which one goes on which side! I'm sure I had labeled them but when I go to sandblasting and painting I messed up and must have forgotten to put the tape back on them.

I did a google search and found someone saying this:

The steel brackets bolted to the engine from 1973 to 1988 differ slightly in length so it's important to get the correct pieces for the vehicle you have. The 1973-76 B body GM cars use the longer bracket (part number 334601); all other 1973 and later GM cars use the shorter bracket (part number 334970)

So now how do I know which one goes on which side? Just install them and if it looks wrong pull the motor and switch them? When I lay them flat on the floor it only looks like it's less than 1/2 inch, maybe even 1/4 inch difference.
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go down to a parts store and ask to compare new ones out of the box
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