Iroc,thanks for reminding about those model clubs thats some pretty impressive stuff also and more my speed too thats pretty handy paint work there

and I've just been playin around with the buttons for a few days and I'm having a blast,I got some basics books,theres even a photoshop for dummies book I got like these guys say it'll come but its fun. thanks for the new advice guys ill get on those tutorals tonight