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Old 05-09-2004, 10:21 AM
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Auto Air water based paints?

Anyone ever use these? What was you application? What were the results?
I am thinking of using these for a couple of projects that I had in mind and would like to know if I am going to be wasting my time and $$$
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Old 05-09-2004, 12:22 PM
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you have a link?

i was looking on ebay for air brush paints, there's a handful of h2o based stuff, but like you, i don't know if it would be worth a crap.......
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Old 05-09-2004, 03:16 PM
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Most of the GM cars and trucks are now water based. I have heard mixed reviews.
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I know why a manufacturer would use water Bourne because of the VOC scam they are put under BUT why would anyone else want to?

Safety? -your kidding your self! Just a different set of chemicals.

Durability? - more flexible is what they like to say but so is enamel if you leave out the hardener.

UV durability - maybe 50-70% as good depending what your comparing it to.

Another problem is I'm right handed so I paint with my right hand
that means a beer or cigarette can be in the left hand and now I have to give one of those up for a hair dryer??
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The water based pints the OEM car manufactures use is quite different than what you and I can purchase.

My other hobby is radio control scale WWII aircraft. All the mags use to rave about this water based paint that was supposed to be the cats meow. I put off trying it for a long time, then I gave it a shot, what a bunch of dodo. The stuff peeled off in one rubbery skin when I tried to remove a very small run. I eventually used a famous scale modellers advice and used plain old flat latex exterior house paint It looked very scale like and was durable beyond description.

The past issue of Street Rod Builder had an article on the stuff. They were doing flames on a hood, but they eventually clear coated it with a catalyzed urethane, so what is the point?

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There is a pretty intriguing article on these paints in the May,2004 issue of Street Rodder, page 100. The web site for these water colors is www.autoaircolors.com
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any thoughts on using 1shot paint in an airbrush?

thanks Milo, great link. the second one..... need to check out the whole site i think....
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The water based pints the OEM car manufactures use is quite different than what you and I can purchase.

My other hobby is radio control scale WWII aircraft. All the mags use to rave about this water based paint that was supposed to be the cats meow. I put off trying it for a long time, then I gave it a shot, what a bunch of dodo. The stuff peeled off in one rubbery skin when I tried to remove a very small run. I eventually used a famous scale modellers advice and used plain old flat latex exterior house paint It looked very scale like and was durable beyond description.

The past issue of Street Rod Builder had an article on the stuff. They were doing flames on a hood, but they eventually clear coated it with a catalyzed urethane, so what is the point?

Vince
Your exactly right!! I have spent many of days and nights with auto manufacturers on their redo lines and for touch up or major redo's guess what they use? same stuff we do.
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Auto Air is some wierd stuff personaly I wouldn't use the stuff but some have good results here is my expierance it is cheaper & has some nice colors ( Thats your positives ) first thing is it builds fast but is not sandable really the wierdest thing is after it has dried it still disolves with water but you could rub with solvent based ( ex. Laq thinner acetone ) & it wont do much but hit with water & pfffff its a done deal & I just dont see wet sanding with some solvent based product senless IMO then you need to heat cure & or give plenty of dry time so you can shoot a catylized uro on it IMO UNTIL GOVERMENT makes us use water based it just aint worth the time just to peel it off later
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Auto air should be fine for airbrush work, but I wouldn't use it for a base.

You and airbrush with 1shot . you can brush on a base and airbrush on the the wet paint and it will melt in and be glossy.
I you want to airbrush 1shot on the a cured and sanded base you need to be carefull with the clear and slowly build a base. Uros don't like oil base paints. You can add a hardener to 1shot but I don't know how that wouold airbrush.

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I just started using the Auto Air paints recently for painting helmets , first I use an automotive base and then I use the Auto Air for my designs . I like the color selection and the brilliance of the pearl colors , I purchased a couple of the candies and I'm going to be trying them soon . The one thing I dont like is that once the pearl colors are dry , if you have to do any striping or line work you need to be carefull not to touch the pearl colors , they seem to leave bad print marks .
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