[MARTINSR]

Originally Posted by oldred

Unless you plan on using that Jackson with a hardhat they are a PITA in my opinion because of the location of the lens, when you drop the helmet and look straight ahead the lens is down below eye level. They are designed to be used with a hardhat even if they do come with a headgear in them. Try the Jackson and look straight ahead then try another brand and you will see what I am talking about, the Jackson is the only one I know off that does this and is the reason I would never own one way back when. Looking at the short Jackson the lens is dead center of the shell while every other brand, that I have seen anyway, has the lens a full inch nearer the top in front of your eyes where the dang thing is supposed to be! Are you looking at the long type or the short one?



For those who might be skeptical of that helmet MartinSr is talking about all I can say is try one before knocking it! He had mentioned those things a bunch of times before and when I finally got a chance to try one I was surprised at how well they work and if I were not retired now I definitely would buy one, they are without question the BEST choice for MIG welding! They have the advantage of not having to "Nod-and-drop" while also offering the same superior view of the weld puddle as the conventional lens. I quit using the Auto Dark a long time ago when using small MIG wire because of the viewing problems of the Auto Dark helmet and this was with a Jackson First Gen helmet, cheap or not every Auto Dark I have ever tried is so dark at the weld puddle it makes the seam hard to see and to follow. It's just the nature of the way the things work and has nothing to do with shade adjustment or sensitivity, the way they operate just makes the lens the darkest at the brightest point which is of course the weld puddle. The conventional helmet has a visibility advantage but the Auto Dark is just so handy it negates this better view in most cases but that Acustrike has the best of both.

Thanks for the support Red. Another great advantage is you don't need to pull the helmet off and put on goggles or something for a quick grind of a weld or clean up for a better weld. You open your mouth alittle more and the lense opens up and stays up. You now have a LARGE clear lense to see thru for grinding or what have you.

Brian

[cutthroatkid]

Originally Posted by oldred

Unless you plan on using that Jackson with a hardhat they are a PITA in my opinion because of the location of the lens, when you drop the helmet and look straight ahead the lens is down below eye level. They are designed to be used with a hardhat even if they do come with a headgear in them. Try the Jackson and look straight ahead then try another brand and you will see what I am talking about, the Jackson is the only one I know off that does this and is the reason I would never own one way back when. Looking at the short Jackson the lens is dead center of the shell while every other brand, that I have seen anyway, has the lens a full inch nearer the top in front of your eyes where the dang thing is supposed to be! Are you looking at the long type or the short one?



For those who might be skeptical of that helmet MartinSr is talking about all I can say is try one before knocking it! He had mentioned those things a bunch of times before and when I finally got a chance to try one I was surprised at how well they work and if I were not retired now I definitely would buy one, they are without question the BEST choice for MIG welding! They have the advantage of not having to "Nod-and-drop" while also offering the same superior view of the weld puddle as the conventional lens. I quit using the Auto Dark a long time ago when using small MIG wire because of the viewing problems of the Auto Dark helmet and this was with a Jackson First Gen helmet, cheap or not every Auto Dark I have ever tried is so dark at the weld puddle it makes the seam hard to see and to follow. It's just the nature of the way the things work and has nothing to do with shade adjustment or sensitivity, the way they operate just makes the lens the darkest at the brightest point which is of course the weld puddle. The conventional helmet has a visibility advantage but the Auto Dark is just so handy it negates this better view in most cases but that Acustrike has the best of both.

The one I tryd was@eye level on me just like the older ones I allready have.

[Old Fool]

Originally Posted by cutthroatkid

The one I tryd was@eye level on me just like the older ones I allready have.

Why not just use what you have? They worked for 2 generations, they surely will let you get started.
then decide if you want an auto or a manual

[cutthroatkid]

There in bad shape.

[deadbodyman]

LOL,what the heck is a flip up....