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Old 12-14-2007, 06:52 AM
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Auto Dim Welding Helmet

I want to gat an auto helmet. The prices range from $75.00 to $400.00 or more. What can I expect for $100.00? Worth the money??

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I rec'd a low end helmet as a gift. I have never tried any other auto helmet though. I don't have great lighting in my shop and it is too dark to see good before starting an arc. I find myself still lifting the helmet It's even worse with my failing eyes.

Maybe someone here can give info on a high end helmet?
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:34 AM
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I have a Jackson that is about 10 years old sold for about $150.00 back then. It works great I use it every day. It also has the adjustable shade on it for different darkess for different types of welding. I have put a 2x cheater lens init so you can see better. That helps a lot with old eyes that need bifocals.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:05 AM
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I have to tell you, I have used a number of auto dimming helmets and didn't like a single one of them. I just don't like them. They are too dark before you strike is my biggest complaint. Shades are rated in numbers. Your MIG welding helmet has a 10 to 12 which is recommended for welding 60-250 amps. Your typical sun glasses are something like a 4. The darn auto shade helmets START at 2-4. They are dark before you begin and so you need some light to see what you are doing. You forget to turn them on, most have a small lense, I just don't like them. I love new stuff, I have tried a number of them because I WANT to get something better, I am always looking for something better to make my life easier. But after trying many different ones, I have never found one to be better than my Cherokee "Accustrike" helmet that I bought almost 20 years ago.

It works like this..


You open and close the shaded lense with your chin. You don't have to move it much, so don't think you have to open your mouth. Just a little separation of your teeth without even opening your lips will do it.

It opens to a very large 4x6 or so inch perfectly clear lense. You can weld a weld or two and then pop it open and grind and then put it back down (if you open it all the way it requires your hand to close it) for your next welds.

Yes you will see a quote from my article "Basics of Basics" to MIG welding on the site in the testimonials. He did that on his own I didn't even see it until I went to order a new helmet so I wouldn't have to bring the one I had home from work on weekends. I have NO CONNECTION WHAT SO EVER with this company. I actually sent him a letter almost twenty years ago after buying my very first helmet telling him how much I liked it.
I "pitch" this helmet to anyone who is thinking about buying a new helmet because it WORKS and works well.

They are only about $90.00 on the their site as I remember.


Click here for Accustrike Helmets

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Old 12-14-2007, 08:17 AM
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The guy in their video is moving quick with that helmet. Do you have to order directly from them? I'd like to try one on and check it out before buying. It'd be something different to get used to.
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I have a cheapo Northern Tool helmet that I love.
it has adjustable darkness and sensivity, works great.

It's under $100 I think it was on sale for $49 or something rediculus

It even has flames!

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Old 12-14-2007, 08:27 AM
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I got an auto darkening helmet from harbor freight. It was only like $60...i have had it for two years and have had no problems with it at all.It has adjustments for the darkness and the delay.
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I have a Miller Big Window Elite and absolutely love it-the lense is light enough to see, and there are setting from 9-13 and you can change how fast it darkens-best of all, it has a large eyeport for viewing-


http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...e_inferno0.jpg
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I have a cheapo Northern Tool helmet that I love.
it has adjustable darkness and sensivity, works great.

It's under $100 I think it was on sale for $49 or something rediculus

It even has flames!

Keith

I have one from HF that I got for 49 samolions..works fine for me...and I wear trifocals..

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I bought one from harbor freight $60.00 got it on sale for $45.00 I use it a lot and I love it.
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Tried several auto lenses, didn't like any of them . Tried a Jackson nextgen and loved it. Fairly clear on the light side and is adjustable 9- 13. quick adjustable transition and has enough UV resistance when clear to prevent accidental arcburn if it has timed out. Shuts off after a period of no use to save batteries. uses standard watch batteries available everywhere. Price is kinda scary, but nothing is to good for my eyes.
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Got to agree with 61 on the Jackson it's probably the best one out there. I also agree with MartinSr in that I don't care much for the darn things for body work because I can not see the seam through the thing while welding unless I outline it with soapstone prior to welding, don't have that problem with a regular helmet. Most people love them for body work however but I know a few who say the same thing I do about them so the best thing would be to try one and decide for yourself if it is for you. Another little trick I did recently is buy one of those Huntsman lens replacements for a conventional helmet that lets have the best of both. It simply drops in place of the old standard lens and converts your old flip-up helmet to an auto-dark but still retains the flip-up lens feature. These things are around $100 but work as good as any auto-dark I have used and visibility is great with one.
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I have the flamed autodarkening one from northern tool uses aa or aaa batteries cant remember which, has a solar panel to keep them charged up works great a little big and a little heavy but for welding in the open and not twisting around the differential welding mufflers on it cant be beat.It has uv protection so that you wont get arc flash even if it doesnt darken.When it is off it is fully dark so no harm if you forget to turn it on....The chin operated helmet would be tough for us gum chewers to use

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Glad someone brought this subject up - and now I don't feel quite so bad about an occasional "off track" weld (like about an inch away from where I want to be - mama, grab the grinder).

Since I'm not the only one that has this problem tho I don't really care for the concept of Brian's fave, there are other good suggestions to consider and I will look at all of them (but Brian's, sorry)

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I totally understand Dave, it is not for everyone. Shane, as far as chewing gum, you probably don't chew WHILE you are welding anyway. I chew, never thought about it. I know it is an odd fellow, but I wouldn't live without it.

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