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Old 01-01-2012, 05:05 PM
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Autobody Welder Question.

I have a miller 220 welder that I have been using in my garage for fabrication. Now I'm ready to do some rust panel repair. I have a lincln 120 plus welder without gas. Those of you who have welded body panels before. Would it be worth adding gas $150.00 plus tank) to my lincoln to preform this job? The miller seems pretty hot to do this tack welding with. Thanks. Scott

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what model miller?
whats the smallest size wire you can run in the miller?
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you will definitely want gas for welding the thin stuff
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you definently need gas but like was said maybe a smaller wire with smaller tip in your welder like.024. I do a lot of sheet metal repair with a lincoln 220 with .030 wire and just turn down the temp and speed
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My miller is a model 220 which is an older 250 model. I think I can use .024 wire but I question if THe heat can go low enough?
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That is why I was thinking about adding gas to my 120 lincoln. Thye amps can be turned down farther.
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you will want gas

do you know what amperage the big machine will go down to?

i would see how hard it is to run some 023 wire in the big machine and try it

if not put the 023 wire in the little machine and see how much of the gas parts from the big machine you borrow for the little machine

thats if you are on a super tight budget

the best would be to just pony up and get another bottle and regulator etc. for the smaller machine
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I think you might have to change the liner in your whip and the rollers in your bigger machine to accommodate the 0.23 wire.
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rollers and torch tip yes, but from what I understand, most times you dont have change the linner for going smaller
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Unless that Miller is like anything I have ever seen there is no reason to ditch it for sheetmetal work. What exact model is it?

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I have a Miller 212 I use for bigger stuff but also have a Lincoln 100 weldpack which is the older verison of what you have. I spent the money to convert mine and, believe it or not, I use that thing more than my Miller in the shop. I'm partial to C-25 which is an argon mix and costs more, but for sheet metal and smaller stuff, I like it better. I run .030 wire in my bigger machine and it's there for frames, etc. but you won't regret changing your Lincoln over to gas and using it for small stuff......and it seems there's always a 110 outlet where you need it, not so much for the 220v because I only have 2 in my shop.
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I have a Miller 212 I use for bigger stuff but also have a Lincoln 100 weldpack which is the older verison of what you have. I spent the money to convert mine and, believe it or not, I use that thing more than my Miller in the shop. I'm partial to C-25 which is an argon mix and costs more, but for sheet metal and smaller stuff, I like it better. I run .030 wire in my bigger machine and it's there for frames, etc. but you won't regret changing your Lincoln over to gas and using it for small stuff......and it seems there's always a 110 outlet where you need it, not so much for the 220v because I only have 2 in my shop.

This is very right, the little 110s are convieniant as hell that is for sure.

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I was wrong about the model of my miller. It is a model 120 but it is a 220v machine which is about 20 years old but used very little. I think the amp range is 30-90. I'm using 75% argon, 25% co2 gas. The machine will rum .030 and I thinks .023 wire. Anybody using the esab easy grind wire? Yes I'm on a budget as far as adding gas to the Lincoln welder. It looks like it would cost $180.00 for the K586-1 kit plus $200.00 for a bottle. That's why it would be cheaper to make the miller work better for auto body panels. Thanks for very bodies input. No I'm not crying about being on a budget. Just frugal!

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I was wrong about the model of my miller. It is a model 120 but it is a 220v machine which is about 20 years old but used very little. I think the amp range is 30-90. I'm using 75% argon, 25% co2 gas. The machine will rum .030 and I thinks .023 wire. Anybody using the esab easy grind wire? Yes I'm on a budget as far as adding gas to the Lincoln welder. It looks like it would cost $180.00 for the K586-1 kit plus $200.00 for a bottle. That's why it would be cheaper to make the miller work better for auto body panels. Thanks for very bodies input. No I'm not crying about being on a budget. Just frugal!
if it will turn down to 30 amps, I think you could use it.
mine goes from 210 amps - 30 amps, and I dont weld on the very lowest settings, for sheetmetal.
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