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Bar Rust epoxy question

I had the floors in and under my car sandblasted and sprayed with Glidden Bar Rust epoxy.The stuff is cheap ,$50 a gallon.I tried POR and it bubbled,found it didn't hold that well and was easily scratched off,applied to instructions.The Bar Rust seems to be hard to strip off if I try to. I have a gallon of it and wondering if I should use it as a primer as I strip the car? Anyone ever use this epoxy? Thanks Cisco

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Old 03-12-2007, 06:45 PM
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Never heard of Glidden bar rust. But I use the por-15. I haven't been able to scrach it off though. I tried hard several times and did't get it to fail. But hey i am always looking for better products...so let us know how it works.
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if the por15 is applied to bare rusty metal is holds really good .hard to scratch off or even burn off from welding but if you apply it over non rusty metal or over paint it will peel right off
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If Por15 Bubbled & Was Easy To Remove It Simply Was Not Applied Properly.
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If I had spend the time and money to have the rust removed by blasting, I would not waste my time and money on some "rust cure all". I would simply apply some quality epoxy and be done with it. The epoxy will do as much or more as the other products, as long as the rust has been removed. If rust is still there, you're wasting your time and money.

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Adtkart is right don't waste your money on "magic" cures, removal is the way to deal with rust. If those rust "cures" worked like claimed the big name outfits like DuPont, etc would be all over them because of the huge market for such a product but they don't have any such product, why not? Warranty maybe?

Glidden rust epoxy? Is that the one part stuff sold at home building supplies? If so it is the crap we used on mining equipment prior to painting with Rustoluem and it in NO WAY compares to a 2k true epoxy! If we are talking about the same stuff there is absolutely no place for it in auto body work, certainly not for rust repair.
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Bar Rust epoxy question

I used POR on my new TCI IFS,cleaned with POR cleaner/metal prep.It scraps off easy.It left small bubbles when applied to gas tank and rear end,had to sand and recoat.I think their letiture says something about bubbling.Anyway I don't like POR.
Bar Rust is a 2 part industrial epoxy.I've stripped metal with scotch brite wheels (love them) or sand blasting,then applied epoxy.It doesn't scrap off.I used left over mixed epoxy on slightly rusty interior areas and it seems to hold OK.I was going to use up this bar rust epoxy(black) and top coat with auto epoxy primer(gray) and then K2 primer.Thought it might be good to have 2 colors of epoxy, so I don't sand through it. Cisco
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Bar Rust is a 2 part industrial epoxy.
Are you painting a piece of industrial equipment or an automobile? Automotive paints are designed to be used on autos, in a certain way, over certain materials. Trying to get good performance over an industrial paint is asking for trouble.

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The problem i see with it.....will other products adhere to it properly ? and for how long ?... If you are going to purchase "automotive" epoxy anyways...why not just use the same product but in a different color.
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I have no clue what this stuff is but you need to be aware of what it is meant to do and why it is meant to do it.
Ist is it made to coat a Crane without sanding outside at 40 degrees or 80 degrees? In other words field paint?

What are the open times and safe coat times using a urethane type paint over it, if you even can. Remember field painters use $12-20 a gallon enamels and the solvents is a whole lot different then automotive finishes.

If your looking for cheap what about Home depot floor epoxy at $20 a gallon good stuff for a floor but for a car, look for problems.

My two cents worth, buy the lowest grade and cheapest automotive epoxy you can find and you will still be way ahead of the game if you want the car to last anytime at all.
As a matter of fact I believe you would be further ahead if price is an issue to buy the cheapest automotive primer (lacquer or 2K) you can find and just spray that instead of the industrial grade epoxy and I would say you will get a lot better job.

Other option is do a search under industrial coatings and get a complete system so you run into no problems.

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por15 isn't designed for new or perfect metal it grabs best to a hard rusty scalefree surface.you can paint it on with a brush and it will lay down flat and you would swear it was sprayed on. done it a few times and if the surface is rusty it grabs like crazy
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But then you still have a rusty car
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But then you still have a rusty car
Kind of like putting makeup over skin cancer.
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Hey maybe we are on to something-rust just might make really GREAT primer!
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Yea, it should be rough enough to get a bite. LOL

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